Classic cameras and modern flash compatability??

[Kirks518]

It's possible the YN-E3-RT requires a TTL body to connect with. The same happens with the YN RF-602 and 603 mkI

I don't have any troubles firing my RF-602's from my 124G, M645 1000S, or RB67 using the adapters listed above. The RF-602's only have a center pin contact, so no need for TTL anything. I have also had no issues with my YN-622's, which are E-TTL.

 

[canvassy]

It's possible the YN-E3-RT requires a TTL body to connect with. The same happens with the YN RF-602 and 603 mkI

I don't have any troubles firing my RF-602's from my 124G, M645 1000S, or RB67 using the adapters listed above. The RF-602's only have a center pin contact, so no need for TTL anything. I have also had no issues with my YN-622's, which are E-TTL.

I use RF603's (mk 1 and mk II) on a Bronica ETRS. No TTL or anything there. Works fine on the other film cameras I've tried it on too.

 

[mweintraub]

I don't have any troubles firing my RF-602's from my 124G, M645 1000S, or RB67 using the adapters listed above. The RF-602's only have a center pin contact, so no need for TTL anything. I have also had no issues with my YN-622's, which are E-TTL.

I use RF603's (mk 1 and mk II) on a Bronica ETRS. No TTL or anything there. Works fine on the other film cameras I've tried it on too.

I'm not talking about TTL triggering, but just needing a TTL body.

From what I've read, and my experience with the 603 mkI, they won't "connect" to the receivers unless the transmitter device sits on a TTL shoe. They can be modified to do this. This is the case with the 602 also. This has been "fixed" with the 603 II.

http://betterfamilyphotos.blogspot.com/2013/01/yongnuo-rf-603-olympus-om-d.html

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/02/d...uo-rf603n-wireless-remote-flash-trigger.aspx/

Another link to a post here on APUG [start reading here for a few comments]: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Kirks518]

I'm not talking about TTL triggering, but just needing a TTL body.

From what I've read, and my experience with the 603 mkI, they won't "connect" to the receivers unless the transmitter device sits on a TTL shoe. They can be modified to do this. This is the case with the 602 also. This has been "fixed" with the 603 II.

I have the 602's, and the 622's. I almost always use my 602's, and I use them constantly on my M645 with the hot shoe adapter I first linked to, and it works every time. Maybe mine are just an older (or newer) version?

 

[mweintraub]

I have the 602's, and the 622's. I almost always use my 602's, and I use them constantly on my M645 with the hot shoe adapter I first linked to, and it works every time. Maybe mine are just an older (or newer) version?

I wonder if the adapters you're using shorts the pins needed.

 

[TSSPro]

It seems like many of the responses to this thread have covered the basic answer to your query, but to second the affirmation you will be able to use these newer flashes with older cameras as long as they have a sync cord port and you have a way to either connect the flash to the port itself via a hardline connection or by triggering the flash remotely with your radio/optical slaves. Putting the flash into manual mode and changing the output of the flash will be the easiest way to mesh the different generations of tech.

I've used PWs for years with cameras old and new, and a few old ones with digital guts (digital backs from Aptus Leaf) and they've always worked great. All you need is a way to reliably trigger the flashes. Best of luck and hope to see some of your work on the forum!

 

[R.Gould]

I've got a bit of modern flash gear that I use with my "other format" camera. Specifically I've got Youngnuo YN600-EX-RT speedlights and a YN-E3-RT transmitter.
I've got a Yashicamat 124 and a I'm expecting delivery next week of a Mamiya RB67 Pro
Both of those have only the PC connection for flash sync.
I know everything would have to be in manual mode with the associated exposure considerations.
My question is would I be able to trigger the YN-E3-RT transmitter using a PC to hot shoe cable to remotely trigger the speedlights?

You should not have any problems, I use Elinchrome studio flash with my classic cameras, mainly my Rolleiflex,cord and Microcord, just make sure you use the X setting, and you will have flash sync at all shutter speeds, you will need a flash meter to get the correct exposure, I have used various flash setups over the many years that I have used classic cameras and have yet to have a problem, other than forgeting to set the camera to x on a few occosions,

 

[Leigh B]

The flash trigger circuit in an old camera is much more robust than in most modern cameras.

The old cameras used a metal switch, like the light switch on your wall.
The switch was rated to work with a 300-volt flash battery.

Modern cameras generally use solid-state (transistor) circuitry, which is not nearly as strong and reliable.
Also, many modern flashes are rated only for lower trigger voltages. like 30 volts or so.

- Leigh

 

[mike c]

Had to replace the flash contacts a couple of times on my Hasselblad lens due to arcing from using a 200B Normans for weddings.

 

[Salt&Light]

As said, if you can use manual mode/power with the triggers, you're golden. I've used modern triggers on my older cameras.

New Godox X1 system with the RZ67: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrdat/27518023173
CTR-301p with RZ67: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrdat/13417509993
Wired PC Sync connection on Yashica 35: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrdat/2532182509
CTR-301p with Kiev 60: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrdat/4195656145
Wired/Hotshoe? speedlight with Yashica 124G: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrdat/4204534841

I want to use the Godox X1 system with my Mamiya 645E hot shoe. In the photo of your X1T on your RZ67, was the X1T slid directly into the hot shoe? Also, my Godox X1 system that I have is for my Sony a7- will it work on the hot shoe of my 645?

 

[MattKing]

Some flash components that are dedicated to specific cameras can cause problems, because they have additional contacts that don't match the simple contacts on something like the 645e hot shoe.
If you have the option of mounting the trigger elsewhere and using a pc cord to the pc socket on the camera, that will most likely function reliably in manual mode.
If the flash has built-in auto-exposure capability (distinguished from auto-exposure that relies on the camera) that should work as well.

 

[AgX]

With such dedicated flashes one might consider inserting a respectively cut plastic sheet between foot and shoe, leaving out only the center contact..

However the best way would be to use either a correctly dedicated or a non dedicated flash.
One might consider buying for cheap a SCA-system flash and the respective adapter.

 

[spijker]

I have the Godox XproC (for Canon) trigger and it works well with the Mamiya 645 AFD3. Both the flash trigger and the camera have additional contacts on the hot shoe but these seem to be ignored on both sides as they're not compatible. The camera triggers the flashes correctly through the Xpro and I can control the flash settings from the Xpro without any strange side effects. Of course I don't get TTL flash control, 2nd curtain sync etc. with this combination as I do with a Canon (D)SLR and the XproC. High speed sync might still work but I haven't tried that.

 

[Salt&Light]

Some flash components that are dedicated to specific cameras can cause problems, because they have additional contacts that don't match the simple contacts on something like the 645e hot shoe.
If you have the option of mounting the trigger elsewhere and using a pc cord to the pc socket on the camera, that will most likely function reliably in manual mode.
If the flash has built-in auto-exposure capability (distinguished from auto-exposure that relies on the camera) that should work as well.

Matt, thank you for this helpful reply. And thank you everyone else for your replies too!

I just ordered a male-to-male PC sync cable to connect my 645 to my Godox X1