Chloride donor for copper sulfate bleach? What am I missing?

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I've just gotten some copper sulfate to use in bleaching for B&W reversal (used with a chloride donor such as table salt, in an acidic solution), and it occurred to me that hydrochloric acid (sold at home improvement stores as muriatic acid, for cleaning concrete etc.) would both acidify the solution and provide chloride ions to convert the developed silver to silver chloride for later dissolution by ammonium hydroxide.

I see copper chloride has very low solubility in water, so I'd think adding any chloride donor to a copper ion solution would lead to precipitation of copper chloride -- but the desired end result is silver chloride in the developed image area of the film (which is soluble in aqueous ammonia, unlike silver bromide and iodide), so a chloride donor is critical, and I know from report that this bleach works.

Is there some reason other than cost why hydrochloric acid isn't used here?
 

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Copper (II) chloride is very soluble in water. It's the (I) salt that is sparingly soluble.
 
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Copper (II) chloride is very soluble in water. It's the (I) salt that is sparingly soluble.

Ah, that explains it. Copper sulfate has the (II) ion, so it'll be CuCl2 in solution. Hydrochloric acid should be fine, easy to get (Big Box store), certainly no worse to deal with than strong acetic acid or even battery strength sulfuric.
 
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Yes, but not as nice as table salt and citric acid, which is a solid.

On the other hand, I have sulfuric on hand, and I can get hydrochloric cheaper than citric.
 
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