Cemetery pictures?

Discussion in 'Ethics and Philosophy' started by Robert, Sep 18, 2002.

  1. Robert

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    Does anybody feel goulish taking pictures in a graveyard? Some of the local ones have great stone statues. They seem to reach out and beg to be photographed. I always feel a little wierd doing it but then I get passed by a jogger.
     
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    You I actuallu think the work is derivative, seen many of this.....but of course that did not stop me from taking them.. [​IMG]

    After I developed and printed the pics, it sort of depressed me a little, decided I should celebrate beauty not death...so I stopped.
     
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    I hit some of the old cemetaries in the abandonded ghost towns and I never thought much about it. But since you mentioned it I realized that the fairly new sections I seem to stay away from as it just doesn't feel right. I guess when you see evidence that someone is still visiting and caring for the site then it changes things a bit.

    The ones I do like are often overgrown with 20 year old aspens and other growth with stones, statues and fences trying to show thru.
     
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    The monuments I photographed yesterday ranged from 80 to 125 years I guess. OTOH the way the cemetary has been setup you can see new current sections less then 100 feet away. It sort of bothers me but between dodging joggers and cyclists I guess it's okay. Nice thing is with all the mature trees the light seems the same from sunup to sunset.

    One sad thing is the WWI memorial. I doubt anybody even knows it's there.
     
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    Not sure about that belt drive. It means you can only have hub gearing, and if the belt snaps you have to hope there's a supplier nearby, rather than being able to repair it as you can with a chain.
     
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    True, and a belt and an internal gear hub isn't something I'd choose for myself, unless I was looking to build up a bike that required no maintenance (a myth, I know), and woud be pretty much impervious to the elements. But I think that's the sort of use they have in mind.
    I looks like it could be the same sort of belt used for automotive timing belts and such. If so, for use on a bike, it should last for a very long time, even accounting for exposure to sun and smog.
    It's probably heavier than a chain and sprockets, but perhaps not that much heavier, though every gram counts.
    The idea that you wouldn't have to worry about rain and grit is appealing.

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    Thought it was time I added some images
     
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    I have a cemetary shot done in infrared. The foreground has a sign that says "No Dumping" and in the background are a field of graves. The no dumping sign was actually meant for the end of the street but I thought it was ironic the way it appeared sitting in front of the graves.
     
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    nice print!
    i never drink instant ( if i can help it )
    unless i am overseas and someone gives me a cup,
    i just smile and drink it thinking what a nice negative it would have made :smile:

    when i process film, i usually use a variation of a caffenol C recipe whiteymorange gave me
    8 oz. water
    4 slightly rounded tsp. instant coffee
    2 tsp. washing soda
    1000 mg Vitamin C (1/4 tsp powder)

    i never measure my ingredients, ( i just pour a lot of coffee and smaller amounts of the other two. )
    sometimes, i cheat a little bit and add a little straight print developer into my brew. i had been using ansco 130
    as my standard film and print developer so i just add a few oz.
    typically i let stand for about 25mins, no matter what the film speed and they
    have a nice contrast and stain to them. i am sure any print developer would
    work as a "contrast enhancer" ...

    i have gotten fond of re-using / replenishing my developer too.
     
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    I'll add a pic which you can comment on [​IMG]
     
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    I just snagged a Lynx 14 to add to the Contax horde (RX, G1). Which battery does it take again? What's most folks' take on the mercury-free-substitute vs adjust the voltage of the meter solution to the battery situation with these cameras?
     
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    When ever visiting a new location I always try to spend time at the local cemetary. The older the better. Modern times (expense ?) have seem to done away with beautiful art forms that were very common place years ago.
    My sense is the beauty and peacefulness is very powerful. I do agree it is important to be very respectful of the grounds and the manner in which the work is produced.
    I always encourage my students to work in these locations as it gives one time, quiet, and a good place to practice technique without strangers asking questions about these "Old" cameras (4 X 5).
    As a added adventure, reading headstone can be very educational, humurous, and thought provoking.
    Perhaps like all things, intend is the measure of results.
     
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    I actually found an old cemetary last weekend that I plan to shoot. As far as I can tell it is the old cemetary for the town of Silverbell, AZ which was abandoned and buried under the tailings of the Silverbell Mine. Driving along a dirt road into the northern section of Ironwood National Monument, I came across this little cemetary on the side of the road. It is set back a ways and sort of ambles along a little ridge. There are probably 20-40 graves there of varying ages. Some at least 100+ years old. None have legible labels. Very much a "boothill" kind of place.

    Oh, and for strange gravestones....

    When I lived in the Seattle area, there was an old miners cemetary in the Coal Creek area near Renton. Now apparently there had been a family in the area named Monster. Yes, Monster. There is a Monster Road in Renton. Anyway, in this cemetary was a tombstone with the name - "Baby Monster".
     
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    Hello guys. I am about to do a documentary on old and new chruches in scandinavia. Which lens is best for highlights and sharpness at full aperture - which is max. 2.0? Are there any reasonably priced used lenses that would suit 100 ASA slides for documentary in low-light conditions. Do anyone know of any good films, where contrast and resolution are at their best? Pics much match those from Hasselblad showing the room, while the documentary shows the life of the people there...Can any Leica do that? Kind regards, Claus
     
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    Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of (moderate) wealth and (I hope) taste. I been a Leicaphile for a long, long year, bought many an M, sold and chased. I was there when M's were born, when film was king, when the greats were great. Pleased to meet you, won't you let me stay?
     
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    Jim - I know what you mean. I myself have wanted to do a project where I take a section of highway and shoot every single one of those memorials. Sort of a snapshot of that area.

    Living in the Southwest, those memorials are VERY common. I have seen them in other states, and they are not just a hispanic or catholic phenomenon, but they seem to have origonated as such. In fact there are a couple of spanish words for them, although I can not remember them right now.

    In Tucson, we have one that is very old. In the late 19th century (IIRC), a woman had an affair with local man whom she met at the railroad tracks. The enraged husband killed him and placed him on the tracks so his body was scattered along them for miles.

    Locals at some point turned an old adobe wall with a hearth in it into a shrine for the man and his lover, whom legend says can still be seen wandering the tracks looking for him. To this day people leave prayers in small niches cut into the adobe wall and light candles there.
     
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    It came to mind after my previous post in this thread that the cemetary I was referring to has a Victorian Sunday Picinic in the Park every year. Folks wear clothes of that period, bring picinic basket and blankets and sit on the common ground at the premise. There is a Teddy Bear Tea Pary for children, including a professional story teller, music, folk dancing, and even a photo contest for photos taken at that location. It is a wonderful afternoon and people have a wonderful time. There is such a thing as a celebration for live but perhaps that is my Irish background.
     
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    jnanian

    Thanks for posting your formula.

    Share a little more a replenishing the developer.

    Finally does the caffenol only work with instant rather than brewed coffee? And how do people use it as a film developer. This is new to me, but as a coffee drinker, I find it intriguing. Especially, since I have viewed some good end products. I just have to figure out where to start.

    My regular film developers are HC-110 and D-76 or Clayton. I have new bottle of Rodinal waiting in the wings. Primary film is TMax 100 or Arista II 400. I have some Ilford XP2 400 ASA that I need to learn how to develop with C41 chemicals.

    Thanks for any insight.
     
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    When visiting a War Cemetary in Nijmegen, Holland some years ago I got talking with some WWII veterans and I asked what they thought of my intention to take pictures there. They had no objections whatsoever.
     
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    hi rusty tripod

    instant coffee is the stuff you want to use. robusta coffee beans make up most of the instant coffees
    and they are filled with whatever it is that makes coffee good for developing film and paper.
    some folks use folgers, but i tend to buy the cheep bottles of who knows what it is, from my local market.
    when i replensh it i do not have a real methodology.
    to give you an example of what i did recently -
    i mixed up about 3litres of the developer ( with print developer ).
    i processed 7 rolls of 120 film in it, and then another 7 rolls mixed 120+35mm.
    the next time i processed ( the next day ) i took out about 100ML and added about 100ML of
    the developer, and processed another 7rolls of film in it.
    it was still good for more film if i wanted but since i had a good 4 days between processing, i am mixing fresh for
    my next run.

    i'm not sure if i was much help, i kind of wing it most of the time :smile:

    have fun!

    john
     
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    A headstone has one function; they are erected "In Memorial" - to perpetuate the memory of ....

    That we bring the memorial to someone's attention through a photograph is simply an extension of its function.

    These are our histories of those who have preceded us. They certainly do invoke images of "The way it was" ... and one cannot help but wonder at the people there and their lives.

    In visiting, I am always reminded that we are finite beings; that we have little time to waste, and therefore, we should use it well.
     
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    Hi Rusty;
    I agree with John, use any old rot-gut instant, and don't be too uptight about measuring. (unless you want really predictable results. :D )

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
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    See my latest photo on the right. I never worry about grit (or rain for that matter). Simple maintenance is the answer, clean and oil the chain regularly. I don't use dry lubes, I find they clog up faster than simply using a fine oil and don't offer as much protection from the elements.
     
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