Carbon Tissue Question

[sanking]

Bob, you need to have a stable final support. Gordon used Melinex. I have several sheets of his Melinex and sheets of his prepared tissue in both black and silver.

Jim

I am assuming that Bob wants to make prints on rag type papers. If not there are several dimensionally stable synthetic papers that would work for multi-transfer, including Yupo. And the surface appearance is much more like that of paper like than that of Melinex.

Sandy King

 

[Venchka]

Jim,

Thanks! I look forward to seeing your work.

I was also curious if fixed out x-ray film could be used as the support for the carbon tissue. Or maybe even use reject x-ray film negatives. Recycle instead of keeping rejects forever. Heresy?

 

[Vaughn]

The X-ray film should work as a tissue support. My only concern is with my results when I used .007" thick litho film as a tissue support (same thickness as regular film, and probably the X-ray film as well). I had a not-so-good contact printing frame at the time, and I had a hard time keeping the tissue flat enough to get sharp prints -- where as I had only an occasional problem using the 0.004" litho film. I would get small areas that were totally out of focus...along the edges and sometimes in the middle areas.

Getting a better contact printing frame solved the occasional problem with the 0.004" tissue support...and while I never tried the 0.007" again, it might have solved the problem with the 0.007" also. Of course, a vacuum frame would be no problem. Just a heads up...your mileage may differ... But recycling/re-using rocks!

Vaughn

 

[Venchka]

Thanks Vaughn. I missed the thickness/flatness/contact concern for 0.007" stock.

 

[Bob Carnie]

Just finished the Photostock Workshops ,

Met Ike, Kerik and Sandy and watched the whole workflow and in fact participated for five days .
My head is swimming now as there was so much information and great technical help by the above that I need weeks to absorb what I saw.

Few comments, Ike has a wonderful recipe for the negatives. (I will be bringing him up to Toronto to work with me on my Lambda to make the film negatives.

Keriks_ Gum overs are beautiful , beautiful, beautiful, and have inspired me to try gum over lambda fibres . The range of colour tone is unlimited and quite doable in my darkroom.

Sandy King- not only is Sandy a wonderful man , but also a patient teacher and for my sensibility's as a silver printer his prints simply rock.
the Black details are incredible and I have decided that carbon will be the way I go for a client of mine and Tri Colour Gum or Carbon for myself,my wife and selective clients.

Seeing all the great work these three brought to the table with very open and generous support , was a pleasure and certainly made 2009 for me.

Bill Schwab should be commended for bringing this together, providing the platform for all of us to meet , and keeping it all low key and pleasurable for the participants and our familys.
Heard about a guy named Keith Taylor who does wonderful tri colour gum work and am very interested in seeing his prints.

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Bob, this is great to hear. You guys up north were fortunate to have some fine artists to show you the ropes of the processes.
I have learned a lot from Sandy. He has given me great information and encouragement for my carbon printing. I hope to some day get a chance to meet him and go over the process in person and get his opinion on my prints. Nice to hear everything went well, but with all of that talent I don't see how it could not have been a success.

Jim