can't resist this one film

[Roger Cole]

I meant besides portra, I hate portra haha, I have some portra 220 and I've been trying to trade it and no one will take it...


~Stone

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Which variety of Portra? I like Portra 400 a lot. 160 is just as good but not better for my purposes and a stop and a third slower.

 

[StoneNYC]

Which variety of Portra? I like Portra 400 a lot. 160 is just as good but not better for my purposes and a stop and a third slower.

Portra in general, I don't like C-41 films really, too expensive and to hard to "read" the neg, would rather have E-6 or B&W 220... If E-6 dies I'm probably going fully Digital on the color. I do like Ektar if I'm in a pinch. It's just all too expensive to process...

I haven't shot a LOT of portra but the 400 I shot I found dull and the skin tones grey and blueish... And warning these are not a reflection of "my work" as I was messing around with my new Mamiya 7 at the time when visiting a very pregnant friend, and seeing how slow a shutter I could get hand held in a dark room, this was 1/15 or 1/8 or around there. And just the only example I have on my phone.

Even in those conditions I don't think the colors should have been so dull.

Anyway I just want some damn B&W 220 in maybe a 400ASA? Lol



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[StoneNYC]

That was New Portra 400 ^^^


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[Thomas Bertilsson]

While I love Tri-X 400 for everything that I do, I would love for TMax 3200 to stick around, and I like buying a roll of Delta 3200 in 120 once in a while too. Very beautiful film.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I find those colors very beautiful where I'm looking. Have you had them RA-4 printed?

Portra in general, I don't like C-41 films really, too expensive and to hard to "read" the neg, would rather have E-6 or B&W 220... If E-6 dies I'm probably going fully Digital on the color. I do like Ektar if I'm in a pinch. It's just all too expensive to process...

I haven't shot a LOT of portra but the 400 I shot I found dull and the skin tones grey and blueish... And warning these are not a reflection of "my work" as I was messing around with my new Mamiya 7 at the time when visiting a very pregnant friend, and seeing how slow a shutter I could get hand held in a dark room, this was 1/15 or 1/8 or around there. And just the only example I have on my phone.

Even in those conditions I don't think the colors should have been so dull.

Anyway I just want some damn B&W 220 in maybe a 400ASA? Lol



~Stone

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[StoneNYC]

I find those colors very beautiful where I'm looking. Have you had them RA-4 printed?

No sadly I don't optically print


~Stone

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[Roger Cole]

I think that process is your problem. I get lovely, saturated but realistic colors from Portra 400 (and 160.) I don't have a lot of them on my Flickr page, but have plenty of prints I could scan and post. I've never seen colors like that from Portra, at least not unintentionally (easy enough to get in a hybrid work flow, actually very difficult to get such muted colors printing on RA4.) I'm not printing RA4 now either, though I used to and may again. I'm having mine commercially printed.

Here's a photo of my wife from a 645 Portra 400 negative:

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[StoneNYC]

I think that process is your problem. I get lovely, saturated but realistic colors from Portra 400 (and 160.) I don't have a lot of them on my Flickr page, but have plenty of prints I could scan and post. I've never seen colors like that from Portra, at least not unintentionally (easy enough to get in a hybrid work flow, actually very difficult to get such muted colors printing on RA4.) I'm not printing RA4 now either, though I used to and may again. I'm having mine commercially printed.

Here's a photo of my wife from a 645 Portra 400 negative:

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Gotcha, yea process was done at the local lab. I have one C-41 kit and I keep trying to stock up on exposed rolls of C-41 but before I can get 8 together I break down and bring it to the lab with some "important" roll that can't wait.

I also don't know about image stabilization on c-41 I know there was a roll shot 6 years ago, half used, and the last half had the failed color shift (green in the shadows) but the earlier images were fine (this was an ex's camera I discovered and shot her with). Buying don't know if that was a rarity or if C-41 is much more stable... But I don't like letting it sit undeveloped for months without knowing...


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[MattKing]

Stone:

The colour and saturation of the images you posted are due to:
1) the illumination at the scene; and
2) the process used to come up with a display image.

The two images below were shot on Portra 160NC - the slightly less saturated version of the current Portra 160. The difference in their appearance is due mostly to the placement and diffusion of the light source.

 

[StoneNYC]

Stone:

The colour and saturation of the images you posted are due to:
1) the illumination at the scene; and
2) the process used to come up with a display image.

The two images below were shot on Portra 160NC - the slightly less saturated version of the current Portra 160. The difference in their appearance is due mostly to the placement and diffusion of the light source.

I see. Thanks.


~Stone

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[damonff]

I am actually with you. I must have $3,000 US worth of Velvia in my freezer, but if I buy a gallon on Arista E6, I end up with at least a quart left because I shoot bw and E6 at the same time. That quart or so gets old and I have to chuck it. And Rodinal lasts forever!

I wish the Arista kits were cheaper, E-6 is so ridiculous in price compared to B&W it's pushing me out of the game, I just got a pro pack of provia for Christmas but after I run through that I think I'm done, it's just too expensive... I don't really know why.


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[thuggins]

As I was buying another batch of E6 positive in the ISO100 and 200 range I couldn't resist buying another 2 rolls of expensive provia400X. It's such a lovely thought being able to shoot chromes up to ISO800.

Provia 400 can be easily pushed two stops. The results at ISO 1600 are excellent, and I suspect it can be pushed to 3200 with no problem. On the list of things to try.

 

[StoneNYC]

I am actually with you. I must have $3,000 US worth of Velvia in my freezer, but if I buy a gallon on Arista E6, I end up with at least a quart left because I shoot bw and E6 at the same time. That quart or so gets old and I have to chuck it. And Rodinal lasts forever!

Oh maybe you should send me some of that Velvia, I'll take it off your hands so you won't have to deal with it


~Stone

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[rhmimac]

@thuggins : I heard about provia 400X @ EI800, EI1600 and higher are a mystery to me and surely to try out even if we spend a fortune on this film.
@damonff: 3000$... don't let the thieves know where you're hiding it ...

tnx guys for this great input on my question, seems to hit a long road.

 

[StoneNYC]

ok this is random, but someone asked me about my D3200 I just shot and the grain, I can't seem to PM him an image so this sort of fits the thread as the grain in the D3200 I find exceptionally acceptable for use even when I do it by accident... lol

Here's a 1:1 crop of a spot on one of my recent image uploads to the gallery.

The first image shows the area cropped....



The second is the actual crop to see the grain...



Not bad for D3200 @3200 I think... anyway Developed in DD-X (actually 3rd use DD-X, I had developed 3 rolls before it (2 in a 1L and 1 other in a 500ml tank all the same day, but anyway the DD-X isn't at all exhausted to my knowledge and gave good results for my taste.

Side Note I also just developed Tech Pan in the same DD-X AFTER the D3200 with 2 other 35mm in the 1L tank and it's amazingly fresh, clear, awesome!

EDIT: Please keep in mind the height on my scanner is off slightly so it may look a little "blurred" but that's just out of focus on the super narrow depth of field of the epson v750 scanned @3200dpi I must like that number haha I'll have to adjust the height of that holder one of these days...

 

[Roger Cole]

D3200 is a great film.

 

[StoneNYC]

D3200 is a great film.

Sadly I never experienced P3200 in 120 to compare.


~Stone

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[rhmimac]

is this D3200 in 120? it shows less contrast as usual but in 35mm the grain always pops out when I 'import' it.
It's the only push B&W film now I believe so we'll have to experiment some more to get it to look different than 'default flat'.

 

[Jeff Kubach]

I can't resist IR film.

Jeff

 

[StoneNYC]

is this D3200 in 120? it shows less contrast as usual but in 35mm the grain always pops out when I 'import' it.
It's the only push B&W film now I believe so we'll have to experiment some more to get it to look different than 'default flat'.

Yes in 120, I don't shot much 35mm...


~Stone

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