I meant besides portra, I hate portra haha, I have some portra 220 and I've been trying to trade it and no one will take it...
~Stone
The Noteworthy Ones - Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1 / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic
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Which variety of Portra? I like Portra 400 a lot. 160 is just as good but not better for my purposes and a stop and a third slower.
Portra in general, I don't like C-41 films really, too expensive and to hard to "read" the neg, would rather have E-6 or B&W 220... If E-6 dies I'm probably going fully Digital on the color. I do like Ektar if I'm in a pinch. It's just all too expensive to process...
I haven't shot a LOT of portra but the 400 I shot I found dull and the skin tones grey and blueish... And warning these are not a reflection of "my work" as I was messing around with my new Mamiya 7 at the time when visiting a very pregnant friend, and seeing how slow a shutter I could get hand held in a dark room, this was 1/15 or 1/8 or around there. And just the only example I have on my phone.
Even in those conditions I don't think the colors should have been so dull.
Anyway I just want some damn B&W 220 in maybe a 400ASA? Lol
~Stone
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I find those colors very beautiful where I'm looking. Have you had them RA-4 printed?
I think that process is your problem. I get lovely, saturated but realistic colors from Portra 400 (and 160.) I don't have a lot of them on my Flickr page, but have plenty of prints I could scan and post. I've never seen colors like that from Portra, at least not unintentionally (easy enough to get in a hybrid work flow, actually very difficult to get such muted colors printing on RA4.) I'm not printing RA4 now either, though I used to and may again. I'm having mine commercially printed.
Here's a photo of my wife from a 645 Portra 400 negative:
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Stone:
The colour and saturation of the images you posted are due to:
1) the illumination at the scene; and
2) the process used to come up with a display image.
The two images below were shot on Portra 160NC - the slightly less saturated version of the current Portra 160. The difference in their appearance is due mostly to the placement and diffusion of the light source.
I wish the Arista kits were cheaper, E-6 is so ridiculous in price compared to B&W it's pushing me out of the game, I just got a pro pack of provia for Christmas but after I run through that I think I'm done, it's just too expensive... I don't really know why.
~Stone
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As I was buying another batch of E6 positive in the ISO100 and 200 range I couldn't resist buying another 2 rolls of expensive provia400X. It's such a lovely thought being able to shoot chromes up to ISO800.
I am actually with you. I must have $3,000 US worth of Velvia in my freezer, but if I buy a gallon on Arista E6, I end up with at least a quart left because I shoot bw and E6 at the same time. That quart or so gets old and I have to chuck it. And Rodinal lasts forever!
D3200 is a great film.
is this D3200 in 120? it shows less contrast as usual but in 35mm the grain always pops out when I 'import' it.
It's the only push B&W film now I believe so we'll have to experiment some more to get it to look different than 'default flat'.
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