Canon's Last Analog Camera

AgX · Jun 1, 2018

BMbikerider said:
Does that mean a camera made 8 years ago, presumably presumably in a sealed box, will still perform as well as a similar device even if only made a week ago?

When Canon started with LCD displays they warranted them for a lifetime of 5 years. Real life experience shows that they still are good.

(I saw image disintegration at displays for data backs, seemingly made by a subcontractor and contact issues at cameras from other manufacturers.)

blockend · Jun 1, 2018

For all those people pleading for a new 35mm film camera, here's the proof. A highly evolved professional level brand new camera - and nobody bought them. Unless it has a Leica badge or was made by communists for hipsters.. new film cameras are dead.

AgX · Jun 1, 2018

Nobody bought them?
We do not know the inventory that has been sold in these years and the sales development.

Agulliver · Jun 1, 2018

Very much a photographer who never got on with Canon cameras....but sad nonetheless.

As for "proof" that it's not viable to make a new film camera....the problem is that the people asking for such a device want a 35mm SLR at 1990s prices....not even allowing for inflation.

ic-racer · Jun 1, 2018

Nobody can point to a source of these cameras to buy recently? I'm thinking there are errors in the original post research.

ReginaldSMith · Jun 1, 2018

Isn't COSINA still making new rangefinders under the Voightlander and Bessa badge?

RattyMouse · Jun 1, 2018

thuggins said:
I second that. Given the availability and prices on the used market, it is hard to imagine who would have been buying a new Canon.

But keep in mind that Cadillac built the "last" convertible in 1976, and brand new turntables (and vinyl records) are readily available.

No need to buy new. I bought a MINT condition Canon 1V for around $450. Could not find a mark on it. It was in pristine condition. I have one last EF lens, a telephoto. Should I decide to part with that, I'm sure I'll get a decent amount for the 1V. I have not even put 50 rolls of film through it yet.

RattyMouse · Jun 1, 2018

Theo Sulphate said:
However, I think the decision by Canon to do that was bold, brave, and risky.

And it was a spectacularly successful decision as well. Canon fully eclipsed Nikon in sales during the EF era and has never looked back. Their risk was fully rewarded.

Ces1um · Jun 1, 2018

ReginaldSMith said:
Isn't COSINA still making new rangefinders under the Voightlander and Bessa badge?

nope. Stopped that about 2 years ago sadly.

AgX · Jun 1, 2018

ic-racer said:
Nobody can point to a source of these cameras to buy recently? I'm thinking there are errors in the original post research.

Had you did a bit of research yourself you would have got this:

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http://cweb.canon.jp/e-support/products/eos/180530eos1v-end.html&edit-text=

It is not dated directly, but there is a hint at May 18th.

So the camera has indeed been at offer at Canon. (Unknown to us.)

Sirius Glass · Jun 1, 2018

flavio81 said:
Not everyone thinks that way.

Source: The Nikon and Canons i've owned.

Sirius Glass said:
Anyone is entitled to disagree with me and be wrong. <<wink>> <<wink>>

flavio81 said:
You do have a peculiar kind of charm.

Anyways, i think i'm over the Canon vs Nikon debate. I think the real winner is Asahi Optical Co (Pentax).

Honestly both companies make great cameras.

MattKing · Jun 1, 2018

Tim Gray's site indicates that Leica just discontinued the M7 as well, so it isn't a good month for the well-heeled film camera user.

AgX · Jun 1, 2018

It is not discontinued. It is still offered by Leica.

However a dealer stated that Leica stopped production.

Theo Sulphate · Jun 1, 2018

The Canon 1V discontinuation made late-night TV news yesterday, plus they mentioned Nikon is still selling film cameras.

The F6 is tempting, but I know I'd never use it at all -- so there's no sense buying it. Just one more F6 for someone else to enjoy.

Oddly, I did feel sad seeing the Canon announcement - more so than when the real Polaroid disappeared. I think it's because I'm seeing the artifacts of life that I grew up with disappear one by one. To think that as recently as the 1990's, we had such a vast selection of films to choose from, e.g. Polaroid, Fuji instant, Kodachrome, and I took advantage of none of those. I'm a moron.

AgX · Jun 1, 2018

What great tv news you got that it reports on the discontinuation of an analog camera, moreover one that hardly anyone has heard of.

blockend · Jun 1, 2018

AgX said:
Nobody bought them?
We do not know the inventory that has been sold in these years and the sales development.

It's safe to say a camera that was last produced 8 years ago sold in numbers insignificant enough to claim no one bought the last production run. Cameras like Canon's EOS1 series were made to be sold in tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of units. I'd be surprised if they sold in hundreds per year, because it would have exhausted the last batch more quickly than 8 years.

Film users aren't interested in hi tech cameras in numbers sufficient to generate sales. If they were Nikon would have produced an update to their 14 year old F6, and Leica's M7 would have been succeeded by a film M8.

cmacd123 · Jun 1, 2018

I know I bought the Last Elan 7n in stock at the local store - sadly the back latch has failed on it.

fdonadio · Jun 1, 2018

Sirius Glass said:
Honestly both companies make great cameras.

The endless and boring debate [about which one is better] is funny, though.

RattyMouse · Jun 1, 2018

AgX said:
It is not discontinued. It is still offered by Leica.

However a dealer stated that Leica stopped production.

You are wrong. It is discontinued.

Sirius Glass · Jun 1, 2018

Sirius Glass said:
Honestly both companies make great cameras.

fdonadio said:
The endless and boring debate [about which one is better] is funny, though.

Reading it keeps me off the streets.

Theo Sulphate · Jun 2, 2018

So for those people who bought a Canon 1V recently, what they have is a new camera that's been sitting unused for 8 years - I wonder what issues, such as deterioration of the light seals, may have arisen.

AgX · Jun 2, 2018

RattyMouse said:
You are wrong. It is discontinued.

I am not wrong.
The camera (M7) is still listed at the Leica online-shop, thus there still is an inventory.

BMbikerider · Jun 2, 2018

AgX said:
When Canon started with LCD displays they warranted them for a lifetime of 5 years. Real life experience shows that they still are good.

I know that LCD displays last for a lot longer than 5 years.There is a small LCD monitor on my BMW Motorcycle showing the gear that I have engaged and that bike is 32 years old this month. The LCD is still working perfectly with no loss of segments or contrast between the number and background..
Likewise to Canon, BMW suggested when it was new on the market, the LCD would last between 5 and 10 years.

AgX · Jun 2, 2018

But I indeed experienced the images of several LCDs to completely disintegrate. One even after about 5 years. But none of them at Canon bodies.

Poisson Du Jour · Jun 2, 2018

AgX said:
But I indeed experienced the images of several LCDs to completely disintegrate. One even after about 5 years. But none of them at Canon bodies.

The LCD display driver has been widely implicated in the failure of internal and external displays in the EOS 5/ELAN/A2E cameras. It manifested by fading out randomly. If the camera had this fault under warranty, Canon would have replaced it. Otherwise it is an expensive repair, and today cheaper to discard the camera. Among other blights on the EOS 5 were back back cover and lens release buttons that broke; stripped mode control dial and intermittent high drain of the 2CR5 battery. My EOS 5 (1995-1999) had the infuriating display problem and broken lens release and back cover latch.

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