Canon T70 film problems

[Joane]

I have started using the Canon T70 that my grandad used to use. I am not sure if it will work. When I put a new film in it, the counter didn't go to 0, and the camera didn't make the sound it does b,xwhen it loads a film. It sounds OK when taking fotos, and I have opened it and it looks all right. Does anyone know something? Thaanks

 

[AgX]

Welcome!

Have you got the manual? It is online.


Anyway, after loading there will not be a zero, but:

-) a film cassette icon with 3 strips left to it (symbolizing film having been pulled out of the casettte)
-) the figure 1 (indicating first frame to be exposed)

 

[Joane]

Hello, I've read the manual. I have the icon with the 3 strips at the left. But instead of figure 1, i have 39 (I started at 37 and I have taken 2 photos). Do you think it's normal? I'm not really convinced!

 

[AgX]

Very strange indeed.
Best (my...) explanation is that the door contact is broken. But in this case the motor will neither automatically transport the first "empty" frames to bring the film into starting position.

 

[Joane]

I think that you are right, that the film hasn't been brought to starting position, so now, I can take photos, and the film is moving, but I don't know in what part of the film I'm taking the photos.

 

[Joane]

I'm very new in analog photography. But do you think I can roll the film again and try to put it again? I will only loose the first photos if it works, I don't know if its possible

 

[AgX]

The T70 rewinds the film completely into the cassette, thus you would not be able to reuse it without hassle.
(There are two-blades tools to grasp the leader and tear it out again. Also there are DIY solutions as toothed or sticky foil strips.)

 

[Joane]

Would you recommend it? How can I do it? Do you know any tutorial?

 

[AgX]

https://people.rit.edu/andpph/text-retriever.html

 

[MNM]

The T70 will sound normal and advance the counter even if the film itself is not moving or even present. I once recently forgot which of my T70s was loaded. I got to 37 and was concerned. At 38 I knew something was wrong. It was empty... No film.

It almost sounds to me as if it did not reset after the last roll. The sign being you started at 36. It could be that rewinding to verify you start back at 1 is the best approach though as mentioned, you might not be able to retrieve the film afterward.

You could also just continue and see if it finally stops at the end of the roll. The risk is losing your time and any potential photographs if it is not working.

Either way, you risk something to verify.

 

[AgX]

A T70 without film does not show the film cassette icon. (Unless it got wrong signal too....)

 

[flatulent1]

I have started using the Canon T70 that my grandad used to use.

Your grandad used a T70?? Damn I'm old. I started on a T90. My grandad used a folding Kodak 620.

Must be time for my nap.

 

[blockend]

If I recall correctly the T70 is like the T90, in that an internal battery maintains memory if there are no AA cells fitted. If AA cells fitted, it uses these for memory. I wonder if the internal battery has failed, especially if the camera has been stored for a long period?

 

[AgX]

But that memory only stores filmspeed, program mode and exposure setting and the current frame number. But the reset and first transport at closing the door, are part of the static algorithm.

 

[albertorr84]

Hi everyone!

I am having the same exact problem. Camera is not re-loading film when opening/closing film door, but everything else seems to work fine. I had a look at the repair manual but its not so clear to me where the door closed contact switch is. Can anyone of you give me some suggestion about what I should check?

Thank you,
Alberto

 

[MNM]

Have you tried the rewind button? The last T70 I got lost power halfway through a roll and just running it through a rewind cycle empty got it reset and ready again.

 

[albertorr84]

Thanks MNM! I already tried that but unfortunately it didn't make any change.

Last week I took that camera out for a test and suddenly, the loading process started to work correctly! So probably there was something wrong with the "door closed" switch that went away after a bit of cleaning.
I already finished three rolls without any problems, so lets see what happens

Thanks for your help

Alberto

 

[Aditya]

I have started using the Canon T70 that my grandad used to use. I am not sure if it will work. When I put a new film in it, the counter didn't go to 0, and the camera didn't make the sound it does b,xwhen it loads a film. It sounds OK when taking fotos, and I have opened it and it looks all right. Does anyone know something? Thaanks

Hi Joane! Dealing with the exact same problem and came across your post. I understand there’s no solution in the thread but could you please let me know if you managed to figure out the issue?

Very frustrated trying to get the frame count to 1 (and not 39). Any answers would be great. Thanks!