Canon F1n vs. Nikon F2? Really, is one better than the other?

[Jeff Kubach]

I have the old F-1 and it only needs a battery for the light meter. If that fails use the sunny 16 rule, the rest of the camera still works.

Jeff

 

[E. von Hoegh]

I have the old F-1 and it only needs a battery for the light meter. If that fails use the sunny 16 rule, the rest of the camera still works.

Jeff

I have a Nikon F. There's no place to put a battery.

 

[AgX]

Very true I remember even as far back as 1986 when the Canon T 90 first came I was told by Canon's national service manager ( who's name was ironically Malcolm Tester ) that they had to hook up T90's to a diagnostic computer to find out what was wrong with them.

To my knowledge there was not such as T-90 diagnosis computer (a good idea though). At least there is no diognosis plug at the camera circuit to connect to a diagnosis computer.


I just bought a pristine but dead T-90. I shall still try to cope with the eletrical/electronical fault by means of multimeter and oscilloscope.

 

[Jeff Kubach]

I have a Nikon F. There's no place to put a battery.

Are you sure!

Jeff

 

[frobozz]

To my knowledge there was not such as T-90 diagnosis computer (a good idea though). At least there is no diognosis plug at the camera circuit to connect to a diagnosis computer.


I just bought a pristine but dead T-90. I shall still try to cope with the eletrical/electronical fault by means of multimeter and oscilloscope.

I saw a reference somewhere to the earlier Canon electronic cameras being diagnosed via something that slid into the hot shoe. There are a bunch of contacts there...

Duncan

 

[benjiboy]

To my knowledge there was not such as T-90 diagnosis computer (a good idea though). At least there is no diognosis plug at the camera circuit to connect to a diagnosis computer.


I just bought a pristine but dead T-90. I shall still try to cope with the eletrical/electronical fault by means of multimeter and oscilloscope.

As I wrote my information came direct from the mouth of Canon's national service manager.

 

[AgX]

Three major circuit foils are interconnected by clipping rows of contacts together. Each of these circuits may have been tested seperately by using these contact rows.
The clip itself may have contacts too. (I'm missing an apt photograph.)
Just a guess.

 

[benjiboy]

Three major circuit foils are interconnected by clipping rows of contacts together. Each of these circuits may have been tested seperately by using these contact rows.
The clip itself may have contacts too. (I'm missing an apt photograph.)
Just a guess.

I don't attempt my own repairs,as far as I'm concerned paying to have my equipment serviced by a professional is part of being a serious photographer.

 

[sangetsu]

"If the battery fails in New F1 there's nothing to stop the photographer from carrying a spare, I always carry at least 2, anyway even without a battery the hybrid electro / mechanical shutter speeds of 1/125 to 1/2000 sec. plus B and the flash sync speed are still available.
P.S. Professional cameras are I.M.O. designed for professional maintenance not unskilled labour on the kitchen table http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...tter/index.htm"

Interesting, I just removed the battery from the F1N, and the shutter fires at only one speed.

As for "professional" maintenance, I have had more than one camera screwed up by so-called professional repair people. Canon Japan managed to chip one of the elements in a lens I sent them for service, and they told me that they were "unable" to repair one of the cameras I sent to them for a jammed shutter, they recommended that I buy a new one instead.

 

[benjiboy]

"If the battery fails in New F1 there's nothing to stop the photographer from carrying a spare, I always carry at least 2, anyway even without a battery the hybrid electro / mechanical shutter speeds of 1/125 to 1/2000 sec. plus B and the flash sync speed are still available.
P.S. Professional cameras are I.M.O. designed for professional maintenance not unskilled labour on the kitchen table http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...tter/index.htm"

Interesting, I just removed the battery from the F1N, and the shutter fires at only one speed.

As for "professional" maintenance, I have had more than one camera screwed up by so-called professional repair people. Canon Japan managed to chip one of the elements in a lens I sent them for service, and they told me that they were "unable" to repair one of the cameras I sent to them for a jammed shutter, they recommended that I buy a new one instead.

If your shutter only works at one speed without the battery your camera is faulty, I have three F1-N body's and all the shutters work from 1/60 sec to 1/2000 and B if the battery is removed.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Are you sure!

Jeff

Yes.

 

[Dan Fromm]

I have a Nikon F. There's no place to put a battery.

Yeah, if you use the plain prism with or without the clip-on meter. But if you use a metered prism, well, there's a battery in there somewhere.

 

[lxdude]

Yeah, if you use the plain prism with or without the clip-on meter. But if you use a metered prism, well, there's a battery in there somewhere.

Nope, no battery. They are called Photomic finders for a reason. They are powered by a tiny pellet of Nikonium, which must be changed out after it reaches its half-life of 685 years.

 

[Dan Fromm]

Nope, no battery. They are called Photomic finders for a reason. They are powered by a tiny pellet of Nikonium, which must be changed out after it reaches its half-life of 685 years.

Two pellets, actually, that look very much like mercury batteries.

 

[Jeff Kubach]

Yes.

Needless to say I was jokeing.

Jeff

 

[SchwinnParamount]

Needless to say I was jokeing.

Jeff

No joking on APUG! You start joking around and nobody will take your every word seriously. Joking will spread to other forum members, and pretty soon nobody will take anyone seriously... oh wait.

 

[lxdude]

I too used to phind the big photonic heads phugly but phrankly now I like them. They are such phantastic cameras. At least those are my pheelings.

Phine with me. Phollowing your pheelings is good. It means you're not a fony.

 

[Jeff Kubach]

Nope, no battery. They are called Photomic finders for a reason. They are powered by a tiny pellet of Nikonium, which must be changed out after it reaches its half-life of 685 years.

In that case I'm going to get me a dozen of them.

Jeff

 

[elcabezagrande]

Comrades, comrades, comrades, is time to end debate for once and all. Effryone know Start finest pro(letariat) camera system ever. Ni-Kon? Ca-Non? Pah!. Just cheap Japanese copy of fine Soviet technology.

 

[Dan Fromm]

Comrades, comrades, comrades, is time to end debate for once and all. Effryone know Start finest pro(letariat) camera system ever. Ni-Kon? Ca-Non? Pah!. Just cheap Japanese copy of fine Soviet technology.

Is not simple copy. Is copies produced in anticipation of development of fine Soviet technology. Precognition demonstrably at work.

 

[lxdude]

Da!

 

[benjiboy]

All I can say is after using them for more than 25 years,(and I have owned Nikon F 2's in the past) I wouldn't exchange my 3 New Canon F1' s for 3 Nikon F2 or F3's.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

All I can say is after using them for more than 25 years,(and I have owned Nikon F 2's in the past) I wouldn't exchange my 3 New Canon F1' s for 3 Nikon F2 or F3's.

I think you're being a little premature in your judgement here. Let's see what a full 26 years brings....then let us know.

 

[benjiboy]

I think you're being a little premature in your judgement here. Let's see what a full 26 years brings....then let us know.

Don't give up your day job.

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

Don't give up your day job.

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Darn you! I love my F2. Now I want to try a Canon F1!!