Canon F1 high speed

[BobbyR]

The photo arsenal people had a Canon F1N for sale with a standard AE fn motor drive, at what rate will this cycle?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-F-1-new-s...yZ107919QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Whiteymorange]

The Canon booklet I have for the F1 (not F1N) shows three different motor drives available. With the exception of the third, which came built into a modified body as a factory option (using a semi-transparent mirror and capable of 9fps,) the attachable motor drives were capable of 3 to 4 fps, dependent on shutter speed, I would assume. I believe I have one of the larger, heavy-duty drives for that camera, the MF, somewhere in my studio. It weighs quite a bit and takes 10 AA batteries at a time. Makes for one solid piece of gear though, attached to the F1 ad is actually pretty well balanced. No need to work out at the gym after a day of shooting with that monster. Add the 250 shot magazine and you could go on all day at 36 exposures in a little over 10 seconds.

 

[BobbyR]

The Canon booklet I have for the F1 (not F1N) shows three different motor drives available. With the exception of the third, which came built into a modified body as a factory option (using a semi-transparent mirror and capable of 9fps,) the attachable motor drives were capable of 3 to 4 fps, dependent on shutter speed, I would assume. I believe I have one of the larger, heavy-duty drives for that camera, the MF, somewhere in my studio. It weighs quite a bit and takes 10 AA batteries at a time. Makes for one solid piece of gear though, attached to the F1 ad is actually pretty well balanced. No need to work out at the gym after a day of shooting with that monster. Add the 250 shot magazine and you could go on all day at 36 exposures in a little over 10 seconds.

I know of the various Canon motor drives from the one simply called Canon Motor Drive up to the unit--normally--attached to one of the pellicle high-speed camera.
What I am wondering with the normal AE FN drive attached, as this one has, how fast will the pellicle mirror camera cycle.
Bobby

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

I think the high speed version could do 10 FPS, and the motor drive is permanently attached. Notice there is no film wind lever or shutter release on the body. To get the maximum speed, it may need the high-power battery pack, which could also substitute for the camera battery. The camera in the auction looks like it has the regular battery pack.

I've had the regular F-1N since I bought it new around 1983. The Power Winder FN could do 3 fps (but it doesn't react as quickly as the Motor Drive FN in single-frame mode), and the Motor Drive FN could do 4 fps with the Ni-Cd pack and 5 fps with the regular battery pack.

 

[BobbyR]

Go to the link I posted; you will notice that camera has no film advance lever, but has the normal AE FN motor drive, so the high speed unit must come off.

Photography in Malasia has pictures of a normal high speed unit.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

That's an odd thing. According to the Malaysian site, with the high-speed motor drive it could get 14 fps. I didn't think it could be removed, but I guess it can. No idea if the regular Motor Drive FN would be faster on this camera body.

 

[Mick Fagan]

I have seen the Canon High Speed F1 and the Nikon F2 side by side on a bench in the lab I worked in about 20 years ago.

Two photographers, one from the USA and one from Germany were both in the lab at the same time getting their E6 films clip tested.

They were both going to NZ for a sporting event after having been in Oz for something sporting. Both of them had borrowed their respective high speed cameras from Canon and Nikon. Both ran pellicle mirrors, both chewed batteries at an alarming rate as well as film. Both of the photographers had about 400 rolls of film each to be developed.

Both of these cameras were about the same height, which was around 240-250mm high and they were very heavy. Both had more dials on the drives, than a jumbo jet cockpit.

Both of these cameras are physically big and really heavy.

The Canon which was being used by the American was attached to a 600 f4 (or thereabouts) lens, He had a huge surveyors type tripod with a fluid head attached and the whole kit and caboodle weighed about 30kg.

I have never seen or heard of a smallish high speed Canon, doesn't mean they don't exist, so it may be a one off build.

Could be a very interesting camera to own, expensive for film if you leave the finger down for about 2.5 seconds, but it would be fun.

Mick.

 

[gordrob]

If you have the right subject matter that you want to capture in a hurry add the FN100 back to the camera. You can rip through 100 exposures in about 20 seconds. Loading the exposed film onto a big reel in the dark is another test of ones patience.
Gord

 

[BobbyR]

Well it is back, and looking at the larger pictures closely it seems to be a frankenstein.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-F-1-new-special-motor-version_W0QQitemZ370041083638QQihZ024QQ
categoryZ107919QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It has shutter speeds and metering switches that a high speed does not have yet it has not wind lever.
I sent a note to the arse nal and got no reply as to what it was.

It is odd though.
Bobby

 

[icemendicant]

Hello - I might be able to shed some light on this as I just bought the very camera in question from Photo Arsenal.

It's not the high-speed body with pellicle mirror, but seems to be a standard body without the film advance lever and shutter button, and shoots up to 5fps. The motor drive looks to be the standard Motor-Drive FN and it looks like you can separate this from the camera, although I have not done that yet. I think you'd have to be able to do this to change the camera battery. Otherwise the camera and AE finder operate just the same as an ordinary New F-1.

Either way it's in lovely shape and has been great to shoot with, am waiting for the first rolls to come back to check everything is working well.

If anyone has any more information about this model of camera I'd be very interested.

All the best,

Dan