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Can you develop C-41 film with B&W chemistry?

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There are so many threads on this question that you should get a good set of hits with the search function.

PE
 
Here's a couple done last week. Not D-76, It's PCTea with extra Phenidone. If it ain't C41...it's just another b/w developer.

Fairly decent, but really dense with dye (i.e. 15x exposure on the scanner) because I don't have anything around that will get ride of the dye.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neelin/4195248714/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neelin/4202390566/

The first is Fuji Superia outdated ISO800 film, the second outdated No-name ISO400 print film.

Robert
<Has anyone ever tried?
whoa, there's not much that hasn't been tried.
How about river water as a developer:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neelin/3633398977/
 
YES

bw400cn does produce printable results when developed in t-max
although I have yet to do this myslef personally, only seen the contact sheet
 
yes
 
Some years ago I red about using a B&W developer to intensify C-41 films. It was first devevloped as a B&W film, washed and bleached but not fixed, then redeveloped in the standard C-41 soup of the day. If I ever tried it myself, I can-t remember the results.
 
Kodak Max 400, Kodak Gold 100 and a variety of others develop well as black and white neg. the exposure time takes longer ....much much longer and you have to tweak with contrast .... but the result is acceptable.
 
BTW, I have arisen from the dead according to the surgical team that did my quadruple bypass. I had respirarory failure for which they did a tracheotomy. I awoke with a cluge of chrome plated pipes and doodads protruding from my throat and no voice. All I could think of was "There went my singing career." I had to ask and answer questions by means of an ancient method using paper and some kind of writing stick. You may have heard of it. Eventually the pipes were removed and I could speak in a low baritone voice but lack my usual clear Irish tenor.

I haven't been back in the darkroom yet.
 
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK. I always like the balance you offer the community here, and missed it.
Robert
p.s. I recently had to 'fess up when my wife asked where her second set of good measuring spoons went. "Science, they were donated to science".
 
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BTW, I have arisen from the dead according to the surgical team that did my quadruple bypass. I had respirarory failure for which they did a tracheotomy. I awoke with a cluge of chrome plated pipes and doodads protruding from my throat and no voice. All I could think of was "There went my singing career." I had to ask and answer questions by means of an ancient method using paper and some kind of writing stick. You may have heard of it. Eventually the pipes were removed and I could speak in a low baritone voice but lack my usual clear Irish tenor.

I haven't been back in the darkroom yet.

Welcome back.
 
Welcome back Patrick. What a wonderful Christmas gift to your family and us at APUG as well.

May you have a wonderful 2010.

PE
 
1) SOME of the C-41 films seem to have a silver AH layer. In the C-41 process it will disappear in the bleach. in a B&W process it will stick around. (this may be the reason for the long printing exposure.)

2) great to have Mr. Gainer back.
 
Patrick, glad you're doing well.

On long printing times, well the orange mask may have a lot more to do with it than anything else. Seems to me that mask is awfully close to the color of a safelight. Obviously, it's not a good safelight filter, but I suppose that it blocks enough of the spectrum to which B&W papers are sensitive to make a big difference.

I tried a few times to print a color negative onto B&W paper and was so thoroughly disappointed with the results that I haven't tried it again.
 
Welcome back, Patrick!
 
I've used Diafine and PC-TEA to develop C-41 film - they were only sacrificial test rolls to check basic camera function.

Welcome back Patrick!
 
Dear Patrick;
I can't tell you how happy I am to see you recovered and back again. It's been lonely here without you. You've just made my Christmas. God bless you and your family and enjoy this very merry Christmas.
Denise Libby
 
Just wonderful to hear you're OK - I have to admit my own heart fell at the news. It apparently takes some weeks/months to fully recover.
An old professor used to tell us he was of the opinion that the disease (atherosclerosis) went thro phases and if he was right then you can sit back and relax for a while yet. I hope so.
If you want to score on the docs. it as a tracheostomy (stoma = opening) not a tracheotomy.:smile:
Always helps to feel a little ahead of the game!
Welcome back!!!
Murray
 
Just wonderful to hear you're OK - I have to admit my own heart fell at the news. It apparently takes some weeks/months to fully recover.
An old professor used to tell us he was of the opinion that the disease (atherosclerosis) went thro phases and if he was right then you can sit back and relax for a while yet. I hope so.
If you want to score on the docs. it as a tracheostomy (stoma = opening) not a tracheotomy.:smile:
Always helps to feel a little ahead of the game!
Welcome back!!!
Murray

Thanks.
Actually, I had both. The -ostomy was performed in order to provide the place to insert the -otomy. It could have been permanent, or as in my case, removed when I was able to breathe for myself. That was a disturbingly long period, but the opening has finally healed, at least externally. I have no tube in my throat other than the on Nature provided. I never heard the word "Tracheostomy" mentioned by nurses or docters. The operation was referred to as tracheotomy.

I am fortunate that the brain didn't die when the heart quit pumping. Someone reported that it took them an hour to jump-start me after the robot had connected the pieces of vein that one of my legs so kindly donated.

My test for the brain is my score on the computer solitaire game called "Freecell." It took a big hit several years ago when I had meningo-encephalitis. I got it back up to about 75%, where it seems to have stayed.
 
it is great to have you back patrick!
you have been missed!

have a wonderful holiday and happy and healthy 2010!

john
 
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