No the cost is materials, plant and salaries 'fixed' for any site, ignoring inflation.The cheapest film negatives I have access here is Fomapan 400 and 100, as well as Paradis colour films brand but they only make 35mm.
But I see more manufactures are trying to come along, and it seems more people are choosing to shoot film. Does it means it can get cheaper?
The cheapest film negatives I have access here is Fomapan 400 and 100, as well as Paradis colour films brand but they only make 35mm.
But I see more manufactures are trying to come along, and it seems more people are choosing to shoot film. Does it means it can get cheaper?
What were the prices of APX100, 25 and 400? Anyone from Europe remember?No the cost is materials, plant and salaries 'fixed' for any site, ignoring inflation.
As volume drops the cost increases, even for materials.
Ferranni are hoping to fill an E6 gap but until they discover the volume the price point is volatile.
Adox are also refurbishing a coater so that they will be independent of 3rd parties. Ditto on price point.
APX100 was real cheap after the Leverkausen factory was closed.
i am always surprised that it ISN"T cheaper.
the price of silver is $17.25 a troy oz.
a few years ago it was more than 2x that
not to mention oil is in the tank too,
and prices haven't come down.
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With rising demand
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What were the prices of APX100, 25 and 400? Anyone from Europe remember?
Confirmed about 1.60£ per 36 exp 2007, UK always dear.There was a boatload of APX100 and I had bought some back then (2009) for 1,30€ per 36exp roll (26€ for 20 rolls). Oh boy, I certainly miss it...
Film, paper and chemicals were dirt cheap 15 years ago. IThe price increase of FB paper especially and of slide film is what hurts me most... I think the price of B/W film is still okay.
The OP is wrong only a few consumer films are cheap, all the films I use are significantly more expensive than they were 5 years ago and that was far higher than 10 years ago even allowing for inflation.
Ian
No.
Because we have gigantic surplus capacities in the market. All manufacturers are suffering from the fact that their capacities are much much bigger than the current demand. So the relation of fixed costs relative to production volume is bad. No one in the business is making a real, good, sustainable profit (exception: Fuji Instax). Some are making losses.
With the current worldwide capacities more than 10x of the current volume could be produced.
With rising demand and production the problematic cost situation improves, that is right. That makes it at least a bit easier for the manufacturers to survive. But it will not be enough to lower prices.
The best scenario could be that prices can be kept stable, and that with increasing income over the years film will get cheaper in relative terms.
Buy the way: Lots of films are still cheaper compared to 20-30 years ago if you consider inflation. My costs for film at that time were higher. Developing and color paper (at least in Germany) is much much cheaper today (with calculated inflation) than 20-30 years ago.
Film is cheap. Use it, the more the better. The more the better the chance that we have a sustainable film future with affordable costs.
Best regards,
Henning
In Germany there are some supermarkets chains that have a mini lab in avery one of them. And you can see that many people still are using them.Mini labs are still closing here. It would be a brave person who bought a new one or an operational used one.
If you want to start using film it is more difficult and expensive unless you home process?
I used E6 from '02-'06 when it got too difficult.
Instax and Impossible don't have that problem.
The boom in film from '70 on was partly fast mini lab turn around partly cheap mini labs.
This compromised instant back then.
Noel
Two Years ago I got APX100 for about this price in Freiburg. Paradis is also very very cheap.There was a boatload of APX100 and I had bought some back then (2009) for 1,30€ per 36exp roll (26€ for 20 rolls). Oh boy, I certainly miss it...
The OP is wrong only a few consumer films are cheap, all the films I use are significantly more expensive than they were 5 years ago and that was far higher than 10 years ago even allowing for inflation.
Ian
The cheapest film negatives I have access here is Fomapan 400 and 100, as well as Paradis colour films brand but they only make 35mm.
But I see more manufactures are trying to come along, and it seems more people are choosing to shoot film. Does it means it can get cheaper?
I don't remember how much cheaper it was but I remember it was cheaper. It was my number one film negative for portrait. Now I use Fomapan 200 instead.I remember when Acros was $2.50 per roll. That was only 4-5 years ago ! I wish I stocked up back then!!
I remember when Acros was $2.50 per roll. That was only 4-5 years ago ! I wish I stocked up back then!!
No it was Acros 100 from Fujifilm. Used to be dirt cheap. Not anymore.That must have been Freestyle's Legacy Pro 100 rebrand.
Across 100 became very popular with the popularity of long exposure and pinhole photography. This is probably why it became expansive... People will buy it for long exposures no matter the price.No it was Acros 100 from Fujifilm. Used to be dirt cheap. Not anymore.
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