This open access approach sounds highly commendable. Otherwise there is the danger of those who have something to contribute "falling between" an area of experience or knowledge.
This open access approach sounds highly commendable. Otherwise there is the danger of those who have something to contribute "falling between" an area of experience or knowledge.
Or you're looked down upon because you use the "wrong" brand of camera. I tried a camera club as a teenager in the 80s and was basically ridiculed for owning a Praktica SLR. If it wasn't a Nikon or Canon, possibly a higher end Minolta, they weren't interested.
Attitudes have barely changed in the online photo world. Look at the big D review site. The "full frame" trolls pounce on anyone using a different format, film, or any equipment that is even slightly out of the mainstream (their comfort zone). Differentness is a threatening concept.Or you're looked down upon because you use the "wrong" brand of camera. I tried a camera club as a teenager in the 80s and was basically ridiculed for owning a Praktica SLR. If it wasn't a Nikon or Canon, possibly a higher end Minolta, they weren't interested.
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Sounds like a nice place to be for photography.Yes, we have made the best experiences with this concept. All can learn frome each other. The beginners are happy to learn from the experienced photographers, the experienced photographers enjoy giving advice to beginners who are really interested, and experienced / professionals are also learning from each other. Very interesting is also that everyone has his own style, is good in certain techniques and so on. So everyone can really expand his horizon.
And it is so much better to talk to others in person (not via internet), and to look at original pictures (prints and slides), and not on inferior computer screen pictures.
I can highly recommend to organise local / regional photographer meetings. It is really worth it.
Best regards,
Henning
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The German photo market has been for decades one of the highest developed and most attractive photo markets worldwide, because photography has always been very popular here, and more popular compared to most other countries.
Or in other words:
A very / relatively high percentage of the population here in Germany is interested and active in photography. And the number / percentage of very committed enthusiasts and professionals here is higher compared to most other countries. For a very long time the photography spendings per capita / per photographer in Germany has been the second highest in the world, only surpassed by Japan.
Germany is the biggest photography market in Europe by a big margin. I know lots of photography companies which have a sales volume in Germany which is as big as the sales volume of all other European countries combined. So Germany 1 : rest of Europe 1.
We have still more than 20 (!!) different print photography magazines here on the market, including one completely dedicated to film photography.
And the collapse of the digital camera market is not so strong here compared to other markets, the German market has demonstrated better relative stability. The same is valid for the film photography market, which has been much more stable in Germany during the "digital revolution" compared to almost all other countries.
And conerning our photographer meetings:
They are open for all photographers: Beginners, advanced amateurs, fully dedicated enthusiasts, semi-professionals, professionals, lab-owners, photography teachers, book publishers etc. All these types of photographers have been at our meetings. For example one regular member of our meetings has worked as a professional photographer for Volkswagen for decades (has used also Hasselblad at works and privately). Another one is regularly exhibiting his work and publishing books successfully, using a Leica M6 and a Hasselblad 500 C/M.
Best regards,
Henning
And it is so much better to talk to others in person (not via internet), and to look at original pictures (prints and slides), and not on inferior computer screen pictures.
I can highly recommend to organise local / regional photographer meetings. It is really worth it.
Best regards,
Henning
That "inferiorcompter screen" comment might explain the lack of notable photographic artists in Germany.
That third statement, coming on the heels of the first two, confirms an extremely dangerous level of irony deficiency in this poster....digital is by it's very nature a flawed artificial facsimile, whereas film is a direct capture...so-called digital photography does not strictly meet the definition of photography, but does meet the definition of graphic arts...I prefer facts over opinions...
That third statement, coming on the heels of the first two, confirms an extremely dangerous level of irony deficiency in this poster.
The resolution, colour gamut, real contrast and image stability of an LCD or OLED is far, far inferior to print or projected slide.That "inferiorcompter screen" comment might explain the lack of notable photographic artists in Germany.
Or...can you provide links to change my "notable" perception?
I must add my 2 cents to this query.
First, digital is by it's very nature a flawed artificial facsimile, whereas film is a direct capture.
Second, so-called digital photography does not strictly meet the definition of photography, but does meet the definition of graphic arts.
Third, the claimed lack of notable photo artists in Germany is largely irrelevant to the format they choose to shoot with.
And finally, I prefer facts over opinions, but you are free to form your own.
Thankfully I've managed to avoid camera clubs so far. There is some incredibly misleading negative discussion about film and darkroom online and in general I try and avoid 'gear talk' if I come across someone using an DSLR etc. - not that I'm anti-digital.
Thanks. You do seem to be saying that Germany is a hobbiest enclave...ie that it is big popular market.
That "inferiorcompter screen" comment might explain the lack of notable photographic artists in Germany.
You either haven't fully understood my explanation or you are misinterpreting it. I have written that Germany has been and is in general a big and important photo market - including professional photography (more professionals here in relative terms to most other photo markets). The number of dedicated photographers is very high and higher than in most other markets in relation to the whole national population.
Regards,
Henning
Sounds like a nice place to be for photography.
Maybe my "misunderstanding" has to do with your notion that digital photography, including inkjet printing, is somehow inferior to film. That's a weird place to begin your thesis.
Please provide some links to those 20 German photo magazines (one of which is film only) ? If you did that we would be able to visually appraise German photography, rather than simply having to believer assertions from a nationalist marketeer.
Seems like you are positioning Germany against the rest of the world.
Any German photo magazines printed (translated for web display) in English????
The German photo market has been for decades one of the highest developed and most attractive photo markets worldwide, because photography has always been very popular here, and more popular compared to most other countries.
Or in other words:
A very / relatively high percentage of the population here in Germany is interested and active in photography. And the number / percentage of very committed enthusiasts and professionals here is higher compared to most other countries. For a very long time the photography spendings per capita / per photographer in Germany has been the second highest in the world, only surpassed by Japan.
Germany is the biggest photography market in Europe by a big margin. I know lots of photography companies which have a sales volume in Germany which is as big as the sales volume of all other European countries combined. So Germany 1 : rest of Europe 1.
We have still more than 20 (!!) different print photography magazines here on the market, including one completely dedicated to film photography.
And the collapse of the digital camera market is not so strong here compared to other markets, the German market has demonstrated better relative stability. The same is valid for the film photography market, which has been much more stable in Germany during the "digital revolution" compared to almost all other countries.
And conerning our photographer meetings:
They are open for all photographers: Beginners, advanced amateurs, fully dedicated enthusiasts, semi-professionals, professionals, lab-owners, photography teachers, book publishers etc. All these types of photographers have been at our meetings. For example one regular member of our meetings has worked as a professional photographer for Volkswagen for decades (has used also Hasselblad at works and privately). Another one is regularly exhibiting his work and publishing books successfully, using a Leica M6 and a Hasselblad 500 C/M.
Best regards,
Henning
Any German photo magazines printed (translated for web display) in English?
While I agree with your general sentiment, you venture into mysticism, handwaving and token authenticity worship.
Seemingly without having a good grasp of the real technical differences.
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