Stone,
It seems to me that you need to choose one option and deal with the consequences. Please don't think that I'm having a go at you by saying this; it just seems to me that you're dithering, waiting for some ray of light to hit you. If it hasn't yet, I doubt that it is still coming!
As for the consequences, what's the worst that can happen? You get, say, a Sinar and it doesn't suit you. Just sell it again, and suffer any financial loss. Or, buy a Chinese one at a cheaper price and do a decent review on it. Again, if it's crap, sell it.
On the other hand, you just might find the right option for you and you're on your way!
I can only reiterate that I have found the Chinese ones easy to use and excellent in their results.
If you can find one, an alternative to the Horseman:-
http://www.stevewaltonsblog.com/2013/01/widepan-6x12-roll-film-back.html
/Frank...
Re short lenses, what's your 4x5 camera?
Oren, thanks for reminding me to reread the thread from the start.
Interesting. http://www.largeformatphotography.info/toyo.html makes me wonder whether the 45a is the right camera for short lens fantasies. As you know, I entertain them m'self, sometimes succumb.
Earlier in the thread he said Toyo 45A. MAC says that the 45AII can be used with lenses as short as 47mm, though at the moment the only recessed board they offer is a 12mm one described as being for lenses 58mm - 75mm.
I own a Cambo 6x12. Had it for at least 8 years. Never had a problem with it and it always worked flawlessly. The ability to swap from 4x5 to 6x12 by merely sliding in the appropriate holder is a great boon to my landscape photography. I also drew the 6x12 guide lines on the GG so it's great to see right away what framing may prove best in various shooting scenarios. It is a touch heavy for my wooden monorail camera so I support the rear standard with an empty prescription bottle.
Okay so for anyone who actually comes across this problem, I done some fiddling, it seems that as long as I can put it in at the right bent angle it goes in, but otherwise it must hit something inside, I hear a very distinct "tink" noise that the dark slide is hitting, The Darkside is one of those plastic like dark slides, not the metal ones, not sure what the differences, I have two different backs a 6 x 7 and then the 6 x 12 now, and the designs insider different, the 6 x 7 has a backing plate that is connected to the actual device, the 6 x 12 has a backing plate that actually lifts out of the device, I also noticed that the 6 x 12 has an additional metal silver roller, the first time I put the film over the roller, this time I put it under the roller, and this seems to have made it a little easier to get in however the issue still exists slightly, and I just have to be careful about how I push the dark slide in, the other factors not do this at all no matter which Darkside I use etc.
At least it's usable and I don't have to return it, just wish it function properly from the beginning.
Is it a Cambo you are using? I don't think you actually say.
Here are Cambo's instructions.
http://www.cambo.com/html/downloads/linkedfiles/english/download/item61/c243.pdf
specifically, in n0. 3 "bring it back over the roller"
I wonder if you will be scratching the emulsion, bringing it under the roller.
Yeah it is really great, and it even came with a guideline screen even though the Toyota groundglass already has markings on it for 6 x 7 and 6 x 9, so I pretty much can follow where the area is.
So Stone, does your Toyota ground glass ever start accelerating uncontrollably?
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