Buying Silver Iodide, Silver Bromide at Collodion Process, try to not use Ether

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

I think if I can buy silver iodide and silver bromide , I could make collodion wet plate , easier.

And ether is headache, it can explode, flame or kill. If I could pass that chemical , I would be very happy.

What do you advise ?

THATS VERY IMPORTANT WARNING , ANY SALT MUST BEPREPARED IN TOTAL DARKMNESS AND NOT EXPOSED TO LIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[removed account4]

collodion is made with ether

the base of collodion is nitrated cellulose which is
highly sensitive ( gun cotton )
so there is no way to get away from the flammable nature of the process.

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

What is the role of collodion , is there a light sensivity , may be we can change it with similar carrier if its job is to carry the silver bromide and iodide John.

 

[removed account4]

the collodion is the substrate the silver nitrate is saturated into. the "plate" is exposed
after it is soaked in silver nitrate, it is exposed in camera, and developed while it is still "wet"
because when it is dried out ( ether evaporates out of the solution ) it is film ( celluloid )
if the maker wanted, he could peel it off of the plate and it would be a sheet.-like film ...
it is not light sensitive, but it is spiked with the salts that react with the silver nitrate to make an image.

collodion is also in nail polish. it is impregnated with color, and it is the ingredient used to make "blanks"
that are cut into records ( master disks ) and in record cutting lathes for making your own 78s and LPs if you have a "recordio"

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

We can eliminate the few steps from the process and get similar results.

You can mix very thin crystal - ultra clear , transparent , optical - wet epoxy with silver bromide and silver iodide and take pictures with it after it dried ,epoxy dries at dust free room for 24 hours. Only rule , you have to sand it with 1000 grid sanding paper to developer able to contact with chemistry.

This is used at copper epoxy antifouling paints.

What anyone says to that ?

 

[Xmas]

I think if I can buy silver iodide and silver bromide , I could make collodion wet plate , easier.

And ether is headache, it can explode, flame or kill. If I could pass that chemical , I would be very happy.

What do you advise ?

Silver Bromide 7785-23-1

FOB Price:
US $400 - 900 / Kilogram
Min.Order Quantity:
1 Kilogram/Kilograms

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Silver-Iodide_468075926/showimage.html

ps:Silver Iodide
US $450-650 / Kilogram ( FOB Price)
100 Grams (Min. Order)
Place of Origin: CN;TIA ; Classification: High Purity Reagents ; CAS No.: 7783-96-2 ; Brand Name: WENDA ; EINECS No.: 232-038-0 ; Purity: 99% ;

You could phone or send email

http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=49&sort_dir=0-0-0&sort_column=7-8-0&Start=75

they might not ship.

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

Otherwise , cellulose is one of the widest available chemical , comes in hundreds of forms and used at furniture instrument lacquer.

 

[removed account4]

We can eliminate the few steps from the process and get similar results.

You can mix very thin crystal - ultra clear , transparent , optical - wet epoxy with silver bromide and silver iodide and take pictures with it after it dried ,epoxy dries at dust free room for 24 hours. Only rule , you have to sand it with 1000 grid sanding paper to developer able to contact with chemistry.

This is used at copper epoxy antifouling paints.

What anyone says to that ?

Otherwise , cellulose is one of the widest available chemical , comes in hundreds of forms and used at furniture instrument lacquer.

you might as well make your own silver emulsion
no point in reinventing the wheel

making emulsion is not hard
you can make it with just silver nitrate and salt water and gelatin
or you can mix in the bromide and iodide with the gelatin + silver nitrate.
i made some when i was about 20 .. if a 20year old college student
in a kitchen, with no internet, no help no instructions can make it, i am sure
you can make it too .. and you can make silver gelatin tintypes +dry plate ambrotypes
if you make your own reversal developer, and not have to deal with ether, nitrocellulose, or cyanide fixer.
if you it right they look very much like the wet plate tintypes ( the dry plate ambrotypes look different )
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collodion is different than lacquor and cellulose

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

silver gelatin tintype and dry plate ambrotype

Can you please describe what are they and how do you do ?

Do you keep your silver nitrate , bromide , iodide salts from light ?

Someone sent me a art craft company link , they sell silver nitrate in white plastic bottles.

Thank you John,

Umut

 

[removed account4]

hi umut

with regards to the dry plate tintypes / ambrotypes
starting in the late 1890s/1900s people figured out that you could
coat silver gelatin onto a black paper or metal and expose it like a paper negative
and develop it in a special "reversal developer" ( weak print developer and a little bleach and fixer )
and it gives the impression of a positive image like a tintype ( wet plate ) does. they look like positive images
when they are on metal or paper, but have a greenish tinge to them when on glass.
here is a discussion on making them on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/groups/bwology/discuss/72157623894964681/

this place: http://www.thelightfarm.com/
can describe the process of making your own emulsion better than i ever could.
it isn't light sensitive until you put the silver in it

have fun !
john