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After a late night browsing the web, I decided to take a risk on an "As-Is" SQ-A body For Cheap, put in a small bid, and to my surprise, won. The camera wasn't working, but with a new battery, and after verifying the mechanicals were all working correctly, I started fiddling, armed with a parts / electrical diagram (but not a service manual). Most circuits seemed to be working, and much to my surprise, the body started working intermittently.

At this point, I decided to turn a gamble into a functioning camera, and picked up a lens, a couple of film backs, and lucked out on an AE prism finder for a ridiculously good price.

Here's where it gets odd, and where the question comes in-- With the AE Prism finder attached, in either manual or auto mode, the camera works perfectly, from 1/500 to 8 seconds, and I swear I got a 12 second timed exposure out of it at least once in "Auto" mode.

Without the finder, it works intermittently-- sometimes it works fine, sometimes it acts like there is zero power to the entire system (although as noted, many of the circuits appear to be live). 1/500 shutter speed, no red light when shutter closes. Battery check works.

Based on the amount of flicker in the AE prism when the shutter button is pressed, I'm suspecting the contacts on the shutter switch need to be cleaned / adjusted, possibly along with what the diagrams call the "memory switch". I have instructions for adjusting both, and they appear to be on the bottom of the camera-- but what I don't know, is how to safely remove the bottom plate of the camera. Anyone here done such an operation before, and can you provide pointers?
 

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I don't know the insides of these cameras, but try using a cable release--it probably uses a different switch than the finger release button, If it works fine with the cable release, you're probably right about the shutter switch.
 

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97 people have no idea... That's depressing. :smile:
Umm, yeah it is! Off and on since around 2006 I have looked online for a repair manual that might cover my SQ-A and not been successful.
The Mike Butkus site has a repair manual for an ETRSi which might be close enough in design to provide some hints. If you download anything from that site you are encouraged to make a small donation which is worthwhile given the amount of stuff he has made available out there.

When I zeroed in on the SQ-A versus the other models back when, it seemed I read quite a few tales of woe related to the various AE finders. Since I planned mostly tripod-oriented work for my medium format activities, I ignored the whole notion of metered finders. So far I've had some back light seal problems, and one body stopped responding to the shutter release; an apparent mechanical issue. I cured that with another body (camera not mine!) I have threatened for years to try and dig into that problem body "when I have some free time" -- alas, yeah, right. There is also the ME finder, a chimney finder with a meter that I believe requires manually setting the exposure which could be an in-between compromise.

But it does sound as though something is amok in the body in your case. One might wonder if there's a loose connection related to those springy pins that interconnect the finder disturbing some internal wiring in the body, but probably your question of dirty or intermittent release button contacts is a good starting point. For a simple looking black cube, the combination of mechanical and electrical functions inside those beasties is a little scary.

Good luck with it!
 
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The good news is, with the AE finder installed, it works, even if I'm not using the finder for metering (which is good, the WLF is freakishly expensive... almost as bad as the crank, but that, I can 3D print). In fact, if it's sulking, attaching the AE finder is the best way to get it working again.

There does seem to be correlation between flickering lights and misbehavior-- less flicker, better behavior. Looking at the adjustment instructions for the shutter contact (which is one contact, driven by a mechanical linkage between the shutter release button and the cable release port), there's no way I can get contact cleaner in there without Antman's help.

I'm just too chicken to try taking the bottom plate off myself. :smile:

Anyone know of a repair shop in the US that can do a CLA?
 

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Jimmy Koh is still selling on Ebay. Kohscamera I think? Contact him, maybe he can sell you a copy of a manual with diagrams?
 

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Jimmy doesn't do repairs, but will sell spare parts if he has them. It is worth contacting him. Email for him is on his website.
 
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So after some research, and some experimenting, I've come to the conclusion that it's just dirty contacts, in a number of places-- the battery check button, the shutter release, and the AE "detect" switch that tells the camera an AE prism finder is installed. By thoroughly exercising them, the camera seems to be fully functional now.

Having bought pieces and parts, and 3D printed a winder, I think I'm the owner of a working SQ-A. Looking forward to putting some film through it this weekend.
 

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So after some research, and some experimenting, I've come to the conclusion that it's just dirty contacts, in a number of places-- the battery check button, the shutter release, and the AE "detect" switch that tells the camera an AE prism finder is installed. By thoroughly exercising them, the camera seems to be fully functional now.

Having bought pieces and parts, and 3D printed a winder, I think I'm the owner of a working SQ-A. Looking forward to putting some film through it this weekend.
Excellent! Total dis-use is the enemy of many things mechanical, there seems to be a middle ground between flat-out wear and "limbering up."
 
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