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I'm trying to find a suitable paper for bromoil, but everything mentioned in the books I have has gone the way of the Dodo, except for Fomabrom Variant IV (123.) I tried finding that one but it seems to be having supply issues from the manufacturer.

What are people using these days? Is there anything not mentioned in Gene Laughter's book (sixth edition) or Bromoil - A Foundation Course by Derek Watkins?

Thanks for your help! Digitaltruth is awaiting my reply for a substitution :smile:

Chris
 

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I always use Foma liquid emulsion: as it is totally uncoated paper you get, it is the perfect medium! Looks different though... and the bromoil bleach is slightly different (but same materials).
 

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Slavich Unibrom is no longer being imported to the US, at least not by freestlye.

It's a pity, I love that paper.
 

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Bromoil Art papers

Hi. In my journey with the Bromoil, oil Pigmenting process I have a question re the paper. Watching Norman Gryspeerdt on youtube, I gathered the impression that you can use art paper (as opposed to photographic paper), apply gelatin dilutions, and emulsion and then expose that..then process that. Most of the discussion of bromoil is always about bromoil friendly papers (photographic papers). I am wondering if I have gotten it all wrong.

I (and please dont laugh)..was intending to experiment with different papers (art papers.like water colour papers) coating them with gelatin solution then applying the sensitiser....then processing as per bromoil processes outlined everywhere.

But the discussion on paper always seems to be photographic paper...or photographic art paper.

So do I have it wrong re the paper.............some of the disussion is so old here that links are non ........well just not there.
I followed a David Lewis link..re paper..but the site is not giving any info. i realise that some of these guys are old as now......and maybe not working anymore OR making the things / products mentioned in the discussion.

My interest is Bromoil and Oil Pigment.

I have chemicals for the bleach......and making negatives and ready to go...bit wondering re paper......and just not rich enough to experiment willy nilly.........

Would love some clarification.

Love Bromoil, Love Oil Pigment. I think it suits my style as it develops.
really keen to make contact with others working in this area......

hope to hear from someone.

Graham Hughes
 

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Funny how you can answer your own questions partially at least..........re the paper I think I have been confusing the Bromoil Process with The Oil Pigment process which uses a gelatin coating of paper procedure...........dont you love those ahaaa moments........will probably mean tho, coz I like to keep it simple and doable down here in the colonies.....that maybe oil pigment will be the way to go...if bromoil paper is such an issue.....
 

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Hi. In my journey with the Bromoil, oil Pigmenting process I have a question re the paper. Watching Norman Gryspeerdt on youtube, I gathered the impression that you can use art paper (as opposed to photographic paper), apply gelatin dilutions, and emulsion and then expose that..then process that. Most of the discussion of bromoil is always about bromoil friendly papers (photographic papers). I am wondering if I have gotten it all wrong.

I (and please dont laugh)..was intending to experiment with different papers (art papers.like water colour papers) coating them with gelatin solution then applying the sensitiser....then processing as per bromoil processes outlined everywhere.

But the discussion on paper always seems to be photographic paper...or photographic art paper.

So do I have it wrong re the paper.............some of the disussion is so old here that links are non ........well just not there.
I followed a David Lewis link..re paper..but the site is not giving any info. i realise that some of these guys are old as now......and maybe not working anymore OR making the things / products mentioned in the discussion.

My interest is Bromoil and Oil Pigment.

I have chemicals for the bleach......and making negatives and ready to go...bit wondering re paper......and just not rich enough to experiment willy nilly.........

Would love some clarification.

Love Bromoil, Love Oil Pigment. I think it suits my style as it develops.
really keen to make contact with others working in this area......

hope to hear from someone.

Graham Hughes

hi - if you read my comment up there, you see I use liquid emulsion all the time....

(using graphic printing paper (copper printing paper) rather than water colour papers...)

It is late night here - so I have to sleep, but you can read a little here:

http://www.emilschildt.com/TEKNIKSIDE-BROMOIL-ENGELSK.htm

and see some examples here:

http://www.emilschildt.com/BROMOIL.htm

and

http://www.emilschildt.com/BROMOIL2.htm

all liquid emulsion based.

also I have several examples in my gallery here...

it is highly addictive!!
 

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Funny how you can answer your own questions partially at least..........re the paper I think I have been confusing the Bromoil Process with The Oil Pigment process which uses a gelatin coating of paper procedure...........dont you love those ahaaa moments........will probably mean tho, coz I like to keep it simple and doable down here in the colonies.....that maybe oil pigment will be the way to go...if bromoil paper is such an issue.....

first read above....

then

what you are referring to I think is Rawlings oil or oil print - the mother of bromoil print.

But in my experience, the bromoil process is easier to controll than the Rawlings oil...
 
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