I doubt a "me too" on an internet forum constitutes "collaboration, comment, or the scholarly exchange of ideas" nor does sending it en masse via email to 10 or 12 people really fall under "ad hoc", but I was just playing devil's advocate anyway.
A problem with the Aikin essay is seen in the Kelp image description - it suggests Brett was very methodical. Quoting: "Brett has been careful to present a balanced ratio of incomplete and relatively complete kelp stems", or "Notice the precise intervals in the relationship of these two kelp stems to the
frame." or, "Further perusal of Brett's composition reveals how carefully constructed the picture really is. "
Yet we have on other authority that Brett was very intuitive in his selection and composing. He was very confident in his abilities, so did not need to resort to analytical appraisals. Just a minor point.
In my humble opinion that would fall under "the scholarly exchange of ideas".
Doug,
I read it: Brett works very intuitively and has a natural vision for highly complex compositions which can be broken down analytically. His methodology in practice is intuitive, but the final photograph stands up to extensive formal analysis.
This basically echos my thoughts as well, Jeremy.
I think it may be an issue of semantics... the wording chosen could lead you to believe he made these choices in the field in a more analytical manner than perhaps was intended...
An interesting point for certain.
I would love to get the .PDF too if possible.
Curt
Shawn and Jeremy, your conclusions have merit.
In discussing Brett, I have always considered our friendship first, and his stature as a photographer as a secondary component of that relationship. This most likely is the result of having known Brett from about the time of my eighth birthday.
However, without this early introduction to his passion for photography, I would most likely not have dedicated my life to photography. For this I am fortunate, and thank Brett.
When I speak and write about Brett, it is from the years of friendship and observation. There was never anything analytical about Brett's approach to his photography. Talk of photography bored him, and he had little use for those who would speak on the subject. The few workshops he lent his name to were devoid of detailed technical teaching or in depth critique, but were more an exercise of osmosis. He was in all honesty, more interested in his own work, the work ahead, and had little patience with the confines of teaching.
He was not a good candidate anyway, because he believed an artist was born with a special vision, something that could not be taught; his quote, "Artisits are born and they are not hatched out of art schools or photographic schools or schools for painting or sculpting", pretty much summed up his view of teaching.
It is with this impression of Brett that I sometimes find myself commenting on the analysis of his work. Such analysis is to be expected, and is in the tradition of artistic endeavors. Where I might disagree, is when an analysis attempts to interpret the motivations of the artist.
It is rather amusing to see all of these people popping up to request the article for free, but I wonder if they would be up in arms if the copyright of a photographer was infringed upon in a similar manner....
This basically echos my thoughts as well, Jeremy.
I think it may be an issue of semantics... the wording chosen could lead you to believe he made these choices in the field in a more analytical manner than perhaps was intended...
An interesting point for certain.
Brett Weston's pictures had always boasted freedom and nonchalance, as opposed to the large format pictures of some other "straight" photographers like Edward Weston or Ansel Adams, whose photographs , while often works of genius, have a more contemplative, fabricated, or even a labored feeling. With the Rollei, his new Japanese photographs seem even more spontaneous, sensuous, and carefree, as if they were seen and exposed with a single gesture.
Japan, the portfolio, arrived this afternoon and is really a winner. The next book is Europe.
I finally got a chance to look over this article again and decided to look up Brett's picture of kelp in my library. I knew it was in there somewhere and it turned up in his portfolio of 11x14 contact prints...
Knowing that it was made with the large view camera, I wonder if this is a case where Brett WAS a bit more analytical about his composition than normal?
Merg, had you ever been with Brett when he used the 11x14? Did he approach his subject matter and compositions differently with the larger camera?
Considering the equipment Brett usually used (8x10, 5x7 and MF later in life) I wonder if choosing something made with the 11x14 was the best idea when comparing Brett and Edward's styles? I BELIEVE the rest of the examples in the article were made with smaller formats.
Shawn
Merg, what were Brett's favorite film emulsions for use in the Rollei 66 and the Mamiya RB67? I know he used Agfa Pan 25, any others?
Thanks you for putting up with so many questions. I had a dream last night that I was going into the Army to be a photographer, BTW we are ten years apart in age. I often feel that I was born too late, just ten years earlier and my life would have been much more interesting. I ended up in the Navy and Vietnam and no photography school in the service for me although I asked for it, you know the government, ask and you shall receive, something else.
Curt
Merg;
I'm half way through the book you recommended, Photography, History & Science. It's a great book, very well written. The insights Mr. Robinson brings forth regarding Brett and Edward, along with your gracious contributions to this thread give me a real sense of the "man behind the myth"!
What a great opportunity you've given us all, sharing your opinions and anecdotes regarding a photographic hero of mine. I only wish I took one of Ansel's workshops back in the '70's. The idea of being surrounded by such amazing photographers, even for a weekend is too much to even think about.
I really enjoyed the chapter in the book where Mr. Robinson talks about Ansel Adams. Also very interesting. I have read that Brett's relationship to Ansel was somewhat antagonistic and that Brett loved to tease Ansel at every opportunity. I get the sense that although they respected eachother's work, the way in which they photographed was very different, and that Brett had no patience for Ansel's analytical approach, but then again, maybe i'm reading too far into it.
Thank you once again for sharing your thoughts
Best
Paul
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