Black and White Negatives - Upside Down

[antonyg]

I attended a Darkroom course, processing my Ilford HP5 400 ISO film. I used a Rolleri Compact Camera 28mm to 80mm. and when the negs were processed, and I was putting them in the protective sleeves, they were upside down. My teacher said this occurence is a known fact, because the Compact is unable to reverse the image. What part of my 35mm Compact is unable to do this ?

 

[ic-racer]

Just depends on if the film goes from right-to-left, or left-to-right through the back of the camera. Some cheap cameras do this, but the exclusive Rollei 3000 series also does this.

 

[thebanana]

Some cameras thread the film from right to left. I suspect your camera is one of them. In this case the film rebate (edges/printing) will appear upside down on the negative. So in fact the entire film is "upside down" in the camera, but it really doesn't matter.

 

[Michael W]

I have a Nikon 28ti which is an excellent camera. The film loads upside down from left to right, so the images come out upside down to the rebate numbers. It's not a problem except it can be annoying when I shoot slides & the lab sleeves the film with the numbers reading correct but my images upside down. Really, it's just another type of camera design.

 

[Anscojohn]

I attended a Darkroom course, processing my Ilford HP5 400 ISO film. I used a Rolleri Compact Camera 28mm to 80mm. and when the negs were processed, and I was putting them in the protective sleeves, they were upside down. My teacher said this occurence is a known fact, because the Compact is unable to reverse the image. What part of my 35mm Compact is unable to do this ?

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Methinks your teacher could use a bit more eddication; unless, perhaps, he/she was pulling your leg.

 

[JBrunner]

My 6x17 shoots "upside down" as well. What a hassle to turn the neg around!!!

 

[Steve Smith]

My 6x17 shoots "upside down" as well. What a hassle to turn the neg around!!!

Can't you just turn the camera over?




Steve.

 

[JBrunner]

Can't you just turn the camera over?




Steve.

That's a good point Steve. I hadn't thought to do that. I'm taking it down to the machine shop this morning to get a 1/4 20 hole drilled in the top.

 

[Kevin Caulfield]

Your teacher is surely extracting the urine.....

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

I feel your pain, Jason. What do you do when you print it? Must be utterly confusing...

My Minox 35GT is one of those little range finder folding cameras where the 'lid' that folds up acts as a shade in bright sun. So you turn the camera upside down to use it. Now imagine that. Some frames upright, and some upside down - on the same roll even. I cry when I view those negs. Don't know what to do with them...

Jokes aside. Some cameras wind the entire film out of the canister and then re-wind it back as you expose frames. That's actually pretty intelligent, because if you run into problems mid roll, most of the exposed frames have already been rewound into the canister, so if you have to open the camera up, or even if you do it by mistake, most of the film you used will be OK.

*Grin* But then you get the numbers backwards, out of chronological sequence. What to do? *End Grin*

- Thomas

That's a good point Steve. I hadn't thought to do that. I'm taking it down to the machine shop this morning to get a 1/4 20 hole drilled in the top.

 

[Allen Friday]

To follow up on Thomas' post,

My x-pan has the film move from right to left, but it is still right side up. The camera winds all the film to the "take up" side and then rewinds it into the cassette as the film is exposed. The rational is that if the camera back is opened with film in the camera, the exposed film is in the cassette and will not be ruined. No big deal in shooting unless you are doing diptychs or longer multiple images, you have to pan the opposite direction than you would with a Cannon or Nikon.

 

[Claire Senft]

I tend to do it quite often. Then because I am so damned lazy I just print them that way. When I show people the prints I give them to them upside down..they say "Geez thats an awful photo" and I say "Well if you think that you can do better standing on your head just go ahead and try."

 

[Lee L]

Black and White Negatives - Upside Down

Maybe you should try shooting color...

Lee

 

[Christopher Walrath]

Yeah, just flip the negs over. So long as the emulsion doesn't run ;P

 

[David Brown]

Hmmm ... On my TLR, all the negs are sideways!!!

 

[Polybun]

I'm under the impression that Exaktas feed 135 film through the right way, and everyone else has it wrong.

It does confuse the crap out of the local processing shop every time i shoot a roll of transparencies and let them scan them. They always end up running the film back through upside down because it came out upside down!... this of course leaves the scans reversed left to right... Not real bright people over there.

 

[ricksplace]

That's a good point Steve. I hadn't thought to do that. I'm taking it down to the machine shop this morning to get a 1/4 20 hole drilled in the top.

Jeez. Why haven't I thought of that? This means I can unbolt my enlarger from the ceiling.

 

[haris]

My Canon EOS500n take film out of cannister and wind it back in after exposure, but I finally get used to it...

I have next, bigger problem:

My Canon EOS3 normally take film out of canister, it shoot not upside down but normally, but my frame counter count from 36 to 0. So, I shot frame 0, camera shows frame 36 on counter, shoot frame 1, camera shows 35, etc... What a cronological nightmare!

Can I win prize for weirdest camera?

 

[Polybun]

My Canon EOS500n take film out of cannister and wind it back in after exposure, but I finally get used to it...

I have next, bigger problem:

My Canon EOS3 normally take film out of canister, it shoot not upside down but normally, but my frame counter count from 36 to 0. So, I shot frame 0, camera shows frame 36 on counter, shoot frame 1, camera shows 35, etc... What a cronological nightmare!

Can I win prize for weirdest camera?

No, because they all do that. Thats called a feature by Canon. One that you can turn off too btw.