Best E6 Slide films

[Nuff]

So how close is the Agfa stuff to Velvia 100f for those that have shot both? I can buy the Agfa here for 1/2 the price of the Fuji packaged films so if its even only 90% as good I will be shooting it.

It's as close to Velvia 100f as Provia 100f... never used velvia 100f, but my guess is that it has less contrast and saturation. You can take photos of people with it...

 

[Nuff]

Here's some photos I took on Agfa Prcisa CT 100 and developed last weekend. Be warned, I warmed up a bit the outdoor photos. About 81A equivalent and I think I will get a skylight filter next time I use it (or 81A).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jareksm/tags/agfaprecisact100/

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

It's as close to Velvia 100f as Provia 100f... never used velvia 100f, but my guess is that it has less contrast and saturation. You can take photos of people with it...

I've always thought of AGFA chromes as having their own distinct personality and palettes which cannot be compared to the more energetic palettes that Fuji offers. As a user of Provia 100F though that would be a close match. It's important to look at differences in Fuji. (Velvia) 100F has the same contrast and tonal specifications as Velvia 50 but with an entirely different ('out there', if you will) palette — something which has not particularly endeared that emulsion with people in the landscape genre (espeically LF), and thus it was the first to fall by the wayside when Fuji began culling films. Main problems (scanning and printing) are out-of-gamut yellow-mustard and pale blue-greens, then red-browns that can look quite silly. No such problems with Provia or AGFA. Some good results have been obtained printing 100F it to Ilfochrome Classic (I have fourteen prints here from 2003-2009) with a considerable amount of tweaking of filtration. That film is generally immediately less appealing than well crafted prints of any kind from RVP50 or tempered images from the more gaudy RVP100.

 

[AgX]

Here's some photos I took on Agfa Prcisa CT 100 and developed last weekend. Be warned, I warmed up a bit the outdoor photos. About 81A equivalent and I think I will get a skylight filter next time I use it (or 81A).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jareksm/tags/agfaprecisact100/

Agfa or AgfaPhoto ?

 

[Nuff]

There's only 1 precisa ct 100 on the market now as far as I know. So the current one. I threw away the box ages ago.

 

[Nuff]

I've always thought of AGFA chromes as having their own distinct personality and palettes which cannot be compared to the more energetic palettes that Fuji offers. As a user of Provia 100F though that would be a close match. It's important to look at differences in Fuji. (Velvia) 100F has the same contrast and tonal specifications as Velvia 50 but with an entirely different ('out there', if you will) palette — something which has not particularly endeared that emulsion with people in the landscape genre (espeically LF), and thus it was the first to fall by the wayside when Fuji began culling films. Main problems (scanning and printing) are out-of-gamut yellow-mustard and pale blue-greens, then red-browns that can look quite silly. No such problems with Provia or AGFA. Some good results have been obtained printing 100F it to Ilfochrome Classic (I have fourteen prints here from 2003-2009) with a considerable amount of tweaking of filtration. That film is generally immediately less appealing than well crafted prints of any kind from RVP50 or tempered images from the more gaudy RVP100.

Agfa doesn't make any film. There's only one company which makes E6 now, Fuji. Agfa just stamps it's name on a box.

 

[miha]

Agfa Belgium makes several films, including E-6, some are sold by Maco.

 

[TareqPhoto]

I think you mistyped there. It's Astia that's discontinued (in every format), Velvia 50 and 100 and Provia 100F are all that's left, all in 135, 130, and 4x5. Plus some Agfa/Rollei something, otherwise it's whatever else is left on shelves and in freezers until Ferrania get going.



The youngest Agfa I've got is some RSX100 9x12s that expired in 2006 and some 120s from 2003, not sure when they stopped making it but it was at least around then.
Meanwhile, what? Quitting altogether? I hope I didn't just read that...

I know that Astia is discontinued, but it wasn't the main film or favorite, i was just focused on Velvia 50, so that i said it is discontinued in large format, Astia whether it is gone forever or still alive is not my choice.

 

[AgX]

Agfa doesn't make any film. There's only one company which makes E6 now, Fuji. Agfa just stamps it's name on a box.

Agfa most probably is the world's largest manufacturer of film.




You mixed up Agfa with AgfaPhoto, a branding company.

 

[Ricardo Miranda]

You mixed up Agfa with AgfaPhoto, a branding company.

Absolutely right!
Agfaphoto CT Precisa 100 has been the subject of many threads before, including one where Henning compares it to other films.
The branded Agfaphoto CT Precisa 100 is Fuji RDP I or II (old Provia). The present Fuji Provia 100F is RDP III, so it is the 3rd generation of this film. Note the added F.

 

[miha]

Absolutely right!
Agfaphoto CT Precisa 100 has been the subject of many threads before, including one where Henning compares it to other films.
The branded Agfaphoto CT Precisa 100 is Fuji RDP I or II (old Provia). The present Fuji Provia 100F is RDP III, so it is the 3rd generation of this film. Note the added F.

Ricardo, is there a solid knowledge of the fact that Precisa is RDP I or II?. I can hardly believe Fujifilm coats previous version as well.

 

[Dr Croubie]

I was just focused on Velvia 50, so that i said it is discontinued in large format

Except that it's not, they're still making Velvia 50, Velvia 100, and Provia 100F, in 4x5, fresh from the factory in Japan. I've got some in my freezer, expiry 2015. Cost me US$140/20 sheets, but it exists. You can find it all over fleabay in the new packaging.
There's been so much mis-information over this that I feel the need to correct it every time, mostly coming from the Fuji USA distributor saying that they're not stocking it, or it's "discontinued in USA". Everyone takes that to mean that Japan aren't making it, which isn't true.

 

[AgX]

Ricardo, is there a solid knowledge of the fact that [AgfaPhoto]Precisa is [Fuji]RDP I or II?. I can hardly believe Fujifilm coats previous version as well.

It is often stated here that rebranded films are "cheaper" or older emulsions.

Even if one emulsion is cheaper to make, then still such difference must be calculated against the costs of an extra batch. A fact typically overlooked here.

Another possibility would be selling for rebranding an old stock superceeded by a newer emulsion.

 

[miha]

Another possibility would be selling for rebranding an old stock superceeded by a newer emulsion.

I would think this would be the only possibility.

 

[AgX]

Or selling the same film to different markets at different prices.

 

[miha]

Or selling the same film to different markets at different prices.

Sure, this seems even more plausible.

 

[AgX]

Though some films are sold at prices that it is hard to belive the manufacturer still would make profit.

 

[analoguey]

Agfa most probably is the world's largest manufacturer of film.

Really? Wow. Buyers in Europe?


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[Nuff]

You guys are right, I meant Agfaphoto. And I would say with Fuji slashing and burning product lines, most likely it's the same as Provia 100f. I read a fair bit about it and most people agree.
My assumption is to keep the volume higher and keep Provia 100f in production, I'm sure if the volume wasn't high enough Fuji wouldn't have a problem slashing it as well.
Most likely it's not refrigerated, lower QC etc, few corners cut here and there to keep the price lower.

I just checked chinese taobao the prices for both films. Agfa is only 32 cents cheaper. Provia 100f 135-36 retails there US$7.77. You can get 120 for US$4.05 (old box) and US$4.85 in new box. In yodobashi it sells for US$8.81 per roll of 135 and US$6.61 for 120.

I bet they are still making cash of the Agfa film, they just ship a master roll to someone else to do the cutting etc. 120 has the same surface area as 135. So they must be cutting costs some place else.

 

[Ricardo Miranda]

Ricardo, is there a solid knowledge of the fact that Precisa is RDP I or II?. I can hardly believe Fujifilm coats previous version as well.

Miha,
This was posted by Henning some years ago: "Dear Roger, the current AgfaPhoto CT Precisa slide film is definitely not the Sensia. It is a Provia 100F batch (or batches). I've done a lot of detailed comparison tests of Precisa vs. Sensia vs. Provia 100F. The differences between Sensia 100 and Precisa are very obvious. But the difference between Provia 100F and AgfaPhoto CT Precisa is quite small in direct comparison.
AgfaPhoto CT Precisa is an amateur film and has not the very strong QC control and batch to batch consistency Provia 100F as professional film has. That is the main differences. My test results have been confirmed by Fuji manager Mr Boll in our Photokina talk."

I remember there was another post that referred the current CT Precisa is an older version of ProviaF. That would account for the small differences.

 

[miha]

Thanks Ricardo.

As for my preferred slide films: Fujichrome 100 Professional and Ektachrome 64X (EPX). Nostalgia, I guess

 

[benjiboy]

I.M.O the Fuji Professional range of slide films are the best available today, and they are available in both 135 and 120

 

[GarageBoy]

They're the only range of slide films today... (pretty much)

 

[TareqPhoto]

Except that it's not, they're still making Velvia 50, Velvia 100, and Provia 100F, in 4x5, fresh from the factory in Japan. I've got some in my freezer, expiry 2015. Cost me US$140/20 sheets, but it exists. You can find it all over fleabay in the new packaging.
There's been so much mis-information over this that I feel the need to correct it every time, mostly coming from the Fuji USA distributor saying that they're not stocking it, or it's "discontinued in USA". Everyone takes that to mean that Japan aren't making it, which isn't true.

Yes, i found that film on eBay and i thought there are some packs available as last batch, but i thought i have only to search in Japan stores and not out of Japan, so it is discontinued from worldwide stores except Japan, or still it is available out of Japan stores?