"Best" color negative film

[flavio81]

The best color negative film is Kodacolor 100 speed. Oh, that's right...YOU CAN'T GET IT ANY MORE. Dadburn it.

Here i can get Kodak Pro Image 100 which i bet has something to do with Gold 100.

 

[StoneNYC]

Thanks, i'll use more Colorplus then. I don't have Ektar in 35mm available in this country, only in 120.

The whole country? Wow! why 120 and not 35mm? Sorry man.

 

[flavio81]

The whole country? Wow! why 120 and not 35mm? Sorry man.

This is because of the Kodak dealer here. Probably the sales volume of the Ektar in 35mm would be very low (compared to 120) because here we have ultra-cheap 35mm color films (Fuji Proplus 200, Kodak Colorplus 200, Kodak Pro-image 100).

Ektar is professional-geared, and here it seems that most professionals (or advanced amateurs) are more into 120 format.

 

[sagai]

Here i can get Kodak Pro Image 100 which i bet has something to do with Gold 100.

It is purely to illustrate or to give some impression:
Kodak colorplus 200
https://www.flickr.com/gp/126514376@N06/50re7x

and this is for Ektar:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/126514376@N06/6K97D1

Same camera, same optics, same lab to process at the same time, same scanner, same resizing tool, only the films were different.

 

[DREW WILEY]

No problem, Stone... Hard to say if I'll get the opportunity to do something educational or more conspicuously public once I retire. I'd say
it's 50/50. Right now I'm still in the role of just making web comments here and there trying to keep my head cleared out between bursts of running a multimillion dollar segment of this company, and soon hopefully training my successor. I'm happy at this point just to have an afternoon now and then to be making prints at all. Fortunately my lab is nearly complete in terms of my long-term expectations, but whether I'll be able to run some kind of formal gig in addition is all up to long-term health and squeezing around more important activities in life than just "art". But by now you should have gotten the impression that I'm not particularly fond of web presentations. It's really the bottom of the food chain when it comes to visual communication, and what lies behind a lot of the current mediocrity in what passes for
photography. People need to learn to start looking at real prints again. Take care.

 

[StoneNYC]

No problem, Stone... Hard to say if I'll get the opportunity to do something educational or more conspicuously public once I retire. I'd say
it's 50/50. Right now I'm still in the role of just making web comments here and there trying to keep my head cleared out between bursts of running a multimillion dollar segment of this company, and soon hopefully training my successor. I'm happy at this point just to have an afternoon now and then to be making prints at all. Fortunately my lab is nearly complete in terms of my long-term expectations, but whether I'll be able to run some kind of formal gig in addition is all up to long-term health and squeezing around more important activities in life than just "art". But by now you should have gotten the impression that I'm not particularly fond of web presentations. It's really the bottom of the food chain when it comes to visual communication, and what lies behind a lot of the current mediocrity in what passes for
photography. People need to learn to start looking at real prints again. Take care.

Yes but you can still tell a good photo from a bad one even on the Internet.

Also, I thought you owned your own wood shop, not ran a multi million dollar company...?

 

[sagai]

I am trying to avoid contributing in this hot chili pepper tasting challenge, one mentioning would be that good or bad is like full black and full white, mostly never actually present in nature, further it is a fairly subjective discretion of a human being ...

 

[GarageBoy]

Portra 400 is one of my faves - I love the little sample post card that Kodak passed out as promo material for it
http://jucophoto.tumblr.com/image/31810471087

 

[DREW WILEY]

Well Stone, you certainly can't pick up on the nuances of a fine print on the web; and in my case, about 75% of the hues and subtle
contrast tweaks, not to mention detail, won't translate into web images at all. It's like trying to eat steak through a straw. So you can understand why I have less and less interest in presenting images on the web at all. It's a waste of time. I realize that in this day and age of instant-everything laziness, that even curators are getting their own visual acuity dumbed-down by addiction to the web - hence the comparative mediocrity of much that gets put into frames these days - but not all of us play by those rules. The web is the lowest common denominator of visual communication, and basically worthless for a lot of things. Visually, it's like being allowed to write a novel only using
words found in the Reader's Digest Condensed Dictionary, or in your aspiring profession, allowing acting performances only on UTube.

 

[StoneNYC]

Well Stone, you certainly can't pick up on the nuances of a fine print on the web; and in my case, about 75% of the hues and subtle
contrast tweaks, not to mention detail, won't translate into web images at all. It's like trying to eat steak through a straw. So you can understand why I have less and less interest in presenting images on the web at all. It's a waste of time. I realize that in this day and age of instant-everything laziness, that even curators are getting their own visual acuity dumbed-down by addiction to the web - hence the comparative mediocrity of much that gets put into frames these days - but not all of us play by those rules. The web is the lowest common denominator of visual communication, and basically worthless for a lot of things. Visually, it's like being allowed to write a novel only using
words found in the Reader's Digest Condensed Dictionary, or in your aspiring profession, allowing acting performances only on UTube.

:munch:

 

[DREW WILEY]

You seem to be more on track today, Stone.... But once you get up the courage, you can sail further west and discover that a world actually
exists beyond the perimeter of the internet. Don't worry, you won't fall of the edge of the earth or get swallowed up by sea monsters. And
people actually took photographs prior to the digital revolution, although you might not believe that unless Wickipedia tells you so. Have fun!

 

[StoneNYC]

You seem to be more on track today, Stone.... But once you get up the courage, you can sail further west and discover that a world actually
exists beyond the perimeter of the internet. Don't worry, you won't fall of the edge of the earth or get swallowed up by sea monsters. And
people actually took photographs prior to the digital revolution, although you might not believe that unless Wickipedia tells you so. Have fun!

You were right, spent too much time on here and got frustrated with you.

Mail me an... 11x14 print of yours made from an E-6 and a C-41 interneg onto RA-4 paper then, I'll even pay for the materials used and shipping.

It doesn't really matter it's just frustrating to never know if your info is real or not because you never "show your work" I'm sure your math teacher didn't like it either...

 

[RPC]

You were right, spent too much time on here and got frustrated with you.

Mail me an... 11x14 print of yours made from an E-6 and a C-41 interneg onto RA-4 paper then, I'll even pay for the materials used and shipping.

It doesn't really matter it's just frustrating to never know if your info is real or not because you never "show your work" I'm sure your math teacher didn't like it either...

Why should he go to the trouble of doing that? If you really need proof that something works, why don't you try it yourself instead of criticizing those who say they do it?

 

[DREW WILEY]

You're welcome to purchase my work just like anyone else, Stone.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Why should he go to the trouble of doing that? If you really need proof that something works, why don't you try it yourself instead of criticizing those who say they do it?

+1

 

[StoneNYC]

You're welcome to purchase my work just like anyone else, Stone.

Where? Send me a link and I'll buy something today...

 

[DREW WILEY]

Link? I shut that down. Waste of time. I sell prints, not digitized smudges. Tell me what kind of subject you are looking for, what kind of budget you have, and the preferred medium. I have hundreds of color prints on hand, mostly Ciba, some C - NONE from internegs per se. They aren't cheap. Don't know how soon I'll have an actual showroom space up and running again, but certain not this coming year. Got a
helluva lot still to do before I formally retire from my day job. The website per se will likely be upgraded at that point, but not as a sales
gallery. I have never sold a print over the web. People want to see the real deal, always have. You're an aspiring actor, Stone. Just remember the famous words of Anthony H. in his Hannibal role, "people covet what they see".

 

[StoneNYC]

Link? I shut that down. Waste of time. I sell prints, not digitized smudges. Tell me what kind of subject you are looking for, what kind of budget you have, and the preferred medium. I have hundreds of color prints on hand, mostly Ciba, some C - NONE from internegs per se. They aren't cheap. Don't know how soon I'll have an actual showroom space up and running again, but certain not this coming year. Got a
helluva lot still to do before I formally retire from my day job. The website per se will likely be upgraded at that point, but not as a sales
gallery. I have never sold a print over the web. People want to see the real deal, always have. You're an aspiring actor, Stone. Just remember the famous words of Anthony H. in his Hannibal role, "people covet what they see".

Ok, I don't care what print it is, sell me some print you've made, tell me the price and give me an address and price and I'll send you a check in the mail for a print, apparently sight unseen.

I'll put my money where my mouth is, will you?

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

Please stop it, guys. You both have far more testosterone than the rest of us. Please pee in your own toilets rather than on each other or in this forum.

 

[StoneNYC]

Please stop it, guys. You both have far more testosterone than the rest of us. Please pee in your own toilets rather than on each other or in this forum.

I honestly want to see a print though so I know what a good optical color print looks like... Because I don't know...

 

[DREW WILEY]

Nobody is peeing. People have flown clear across the country to see my prints and purchase them. I have a bit of mess on my hands for awhile and, at best, have to resort to using a copystand and scanner to do casual communication of what a limited selection of specified images looks like. But even that might have to be temporarily dismantled to get certain new big pieces of equipment installed. Plenty of people have seen my prints before, even in major exhibitions and expensive galleries, probably before Stone was even born. So I don't need to prove anything to any web smart alec. But I put up with Stone because I like his enthusiasm about photography. Taking a pie in the face now and then doesn't bother me at all.

 

[StoneNYC]

Nobody is peeing. People have flown clear across the country to see my prints and purchase them. I have a bit of mess on my hands for awhile and, at best, have to resort to using a copystand and scanner to do casual communication of what a limited selection of specified images looks like. But even that might have to be temporarily dismantled to get certain new big pieces of equipment installed. Plenty of people have seen my prints before, even in major exhibitions and expensive galleries, probably before Stone was even born. So I don't need to prove anything to any web smart alec. But I put up with Stone because I like his enthusiasm about photography. Taking a pie in the face now and then doesn't bother me at all.

Flattery will get you nowhere!!!

 

[DREW WILEY]

... and I'm afraid your check would bounce! But maybe you're getting some decent gigs by now? Actors & Artists = Pizza drivers. You know
the stereotypes.

 

[StoneNYC]

... and I'm afraid your check would bounce! But maybe you're getting some decent gigs by now? Actors & Artists = Pizza drivers. You know
the stereotypes.

I quit acting, you could surely wait until the check cleared...

 

[DREW WILEY]

All my 11x14's are vintage Cibachromes, one-of-kinds, so not exactly negotiable yet. You could get a current 20x24 Crystal Archive print
cheaper (and I mean a good one, on polyester rather than paper). But I don't know what you're trying to get at. Do you like something that
looks like a damn coffee table book cover that shows the saturation possibilities of current color neg systems, or something more subtle.
There are a limited number of these prints - not like the decades worth of Cibas I have stockpiled. Don't worry. I wouldn't skin you. But if you
give me any more trouble, I will be tempted to buy you an airline ticket to Singapore for a good caning!