Bergger Unveils Pancro400

[flavio81]

???
What fast food company?
You must be needing reading glasses.
Bergger has 2x "g". And it isn't "Burger King".
I made a mistake with Inoviscoat as it hasn't a double "n".

http://bergger.com/

It is a "joke". Yes, a silly one.
Not much to be said about the film until somebody tests it and posts the results.

 

[Besk]

I note that the 120 film is coated on a PET base as is the sheet films. Very important to me for archival purposes. The 35mm is on a acetate base.

 

[Peter Schrager]

I have almost finished my 50 sheet 4x5" box or Bergger Panchro film, I have 6 sheets left. As I never process more than 4 sheets at a time, often it is 2 sheets. I have processed probably around 15-18 lots of this film. Not once have I pre-soaked, nor am I ever likely to do this. Regardless of the reason for pre-soaking, as suggested by the data sheet, I think this is a really wonderful film.

I do wonder why when using Bergger PMK, one has to pre-soak for 5 minutes with the pre-soak 1ºC warmer than the incoming developer solution. This is a mystery to myself.

Mick.

I have always presoaked...

 

[Paul Howell]

Sorry to rethread an old thread, just bought 5 rolls in 35mm X 36 to use with my point and shoots with a default of 50, I normally shoot Foma which is not DX coded and Tmax400, Tmax is a little too pricey for I consider to be a walk around film. The box says made in Germany, not sure by who. As my point and shoots will not allow me to override the DX code what developer is best when shot at ISO 400? I have D76, F7+, Rodinal and Studional. Last is the last of my MCM 100 which is still good but I have no idea what the time would be for Pancro400.

 

[Auer]

Sorry to rethread an old thread, just bought 5 rolls in 35mm X 36 to use with my point and shoots with a default of 50, I normally shoot Foma which is not DX coded and Tmax400, Tmax is a little too pricey for I consider to be a walk around film. The box says made in Germany, not sure by who. As my point and shoots will not allow me to override the DX code what developer is best when shot at ISO 400? I have D76, F7+, Rodinal and Studional. Last is the last of my MCM 100 which is still good but I have no idea what the time would be for Pancro400.

https://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?Film=Bergger+Pancro+400&Developer=&mdc=Search&TempUnits=C

 

[Arcadia4]

Emulsion by filmotec/orwo, coating by inoviscoat (both since now under common ownership) in Germany. I believe Converting and packaging is by harman/ilford uk.

 

[removedacct1]

Sorry to rethread an old thread, just bought 5 rolls in 35mm X 36 to use with my point and shoots with a default of 50, I normally shoot Foma which is not DX coded and Tmax400, Tmax is a little too pricey for I consider to be a walk around film. The box says made in Germany, not sure by who. As my point and shoots will not allow me to override the DX code what developer is best when shot at ISO 400? I have D76, F7+, Rodinal and Studional. Last is the last of my MCM 100 which is still good but I have no idea what the time would be for Pancro400.

Can't you tape over the DX code or something? Pancro 400 does not deliver optimal results when exposed at 400 ASA (its true speed is closer to 160) no matter what developer you use. AVOID Rodinal with this film, especially if you have no choice but to expose at 400 ASA, as it will give very poor shadow detail. D-76 is a reasonable choice. follow the recommendations on the digitaltruth chart linked to above.

 

[Paul Howell]

thinking about F76+ or D76 stock to chip away at the grain.

 

[flavio81]

Can't you tape over the DX code or something? Pancro 400 does not deliver optimal results when exposed at 400 ASA (its true speed is closer to 160) no matter what developer you use.

Do you have some link you could share of some test that show the true iso and/or the results when used at ISO 160? I'm curious.

 

[removedacct1]

Do you have some link you could share of some test that show the true iso and/or the results when used at ISO 160? I'm curious.

Google "Pancro 400 review" and sift through the results. You could start here: https://www.thomaseisl.photography/technique/bergger-pancro400
It depends on your meter and metering habits, but for me, exposing at 160 ASA gives the range of tonal values I like to work with. If I am using one of the Pyro developers with Pancro 400, I expose at 125 ASA.

 

[Henning Serger]

Emulsion by filmotec/orwo,

That is wrong.
FilmoTec has never been involved in that product. This emulsion was developed by InovisCoat (I talked to their chief emulsionist at my factory visit there). And it was originally developed for a different company, not for Bergger.

coating by inoviscoat (both since now under common ownership) in Germany. I believe Converting and packaging is by harman/ilford uk.

That is correct.

Best regards,
Henning

 

[Arcadia4]

@Henning Serger. Thanks for posting this, thats very interesting.

 

[Pat Erson]

it was originally developed for a different company, not for Bergger.

Henning

Adox?