Bergger Pancro 400

[AgX]

Inquire at Bergger for retailers in the USA. It would be strange not serving this market.
More so as the director is a former Apugger. I assume it is related to the ongoing shipping issues.

 

[fs999]

It seems to be available everywhere in Europe...

fotofachversand.com, buymorefilm.com, labo-argentique.com, ateliers-marinette.fr, digit-photo.com...

 

[removedacct1]

If anyone finds an American supplier that restocks any of the Pancro 400 formats, I request that you post your findings here.
Several of the sellers have listings that suggest they expect to restock in the next month or so. I'll be curious to see if it actually happens.

 

[Terryro]

Yes please post. If someone finds the film in any format in the USA. I've been on the B&H email list for 10 months waiting.

 

[Huss]

Here for $133 for one roll.
To be fair, it comes with free shipping

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[fs999]

Did you look at all the resellers on the Bergger site ? https://bergger.com/en/our-resellers
You can also place orders or ask them where to find it.

 

[removedacct1]

Did you look at all the resellers on the Bergger site ? https://bergger.com/en/our-resellers
You can also place orders or ask them where to find it.

Yes, they've all been explored. Several of these no longer even list Bergger products in their catalog - the rest just say "backordered" or "out of stock". And as I mentioned, if you go to Bergger's site itself, NONE of the sheet film sizes are in stock. Yes, you can order 120 and 35mm, but none of the sheet film.
This is why I requested that if anyone finds anyone in the US stocking inventory of it, alert the rest of us here.

 

[removedacct1]

B&H now has a message on their listings for Pancro 400 that says: "Unfortunately, our supplier cannot provide an accurate timeframe so we have suspended backorders for this item."
That doesn't sound promising.

 

[AgX]

Aurélien, the director of that Bergger enterprise, did not show up at Apug since 2014, so likely he won't make us here wiser.


(Which of course forces us to banter further with Catlabs... who instead dared to raise his head here.)

 

[removedacct1]

Aurélien, the director of that Bergger enterprise, did not show up at Apug since 2014, so likely he won't make us here wiser.


(Which of course forces us to banter further with Catlabs... who instead dared to raise his head here.)

I fear Bergger is in trouble. I hope not, but given that they don't have any inventory of sheet film sizes on their own web site, its hard not to be concerned. Its too bad, because Pancro 400 can be wonderful, handled correctly.

As for CatLabs - feel free. But I'm done with that sh*t.

 

[Pieter12]

I pretty much don't experiment with different emulsions, although I have bought many different ones to try. I like to reduce the variables in my process and have settled on HP5+ in Rodinal for medium format.

I shot some Bergger 400 in 120 last year and did not like it very much. I still have some, may need to try it again. On the other hand I have shot CatLabs and I liked the negatives, but I don't like the polyester (I'm guessing) base, a bit floppy when loading the reel. And the backing paper just looks and feels cheesy, as does the end-taping where the film is taped to the backing paper.

 

[CatLABS]

If anyone finds an American supplier that restocks any of the Pancro 400 formats, I request that you post your findings here.
Several of the sellers have listings that suggest they expect to restock in the next month or so. I'll be curious to see if it actually happens.

Yes please post. If someone finds the film in any format in the USA. I've been on the B&H email list for 10 months waiting.

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[removedacct1]

Sixteen bucks for a single roll of expired Pancro 400??!

 

[Disconnekt]

Sixteen bucks for a single roll of expired Pancro 400??!

I know right? Who do they think they are with the price gouging, B&H?

 

[gone]

Those photos of Paul are so nice, I'm going to try a few rolls of the 35mm, which appears to be widely available. Shoot it at different EI's, try it in different developers, maybe use different lens filters. The downsides mentioned here may not be there, or may be reduced, w/ the right mix combination.

Having another $6 film besides Foma would be wonderful.

 

[removedacct1]

Those photos of Paul are so nice, I'm going to try a few rolls of the 35mm, which appears to be widely available. Shoot it at different EI's, try it in different developers, maybe use different lens filters. The downsides mentioned here may not be there, or may be reduced, w/ the right mix combination.

Having another $6 film besides Foma would be wonderful.

I used Pancro 400 in 35mm a couple times and disliked it immensely: coarse, chunky grain, fairly poor sharpness, and the film curled like mad. I like the film in large formats, but I found it unusable in 35mm.