Bellini E6 Kit

[Samu]

How could this be accommodated by automated labs developing Fuji and Kodak films in the same runs?

By DX code. When the lab receives Velvia, it would mean "push +1/2 stops." It is exactly one minute extra time in FD. In my opinion, there is no need for extended FD time for Provia.

 

[Samu]

With respect to this, is there a possibility that this is a translation issue?
I ask because, in English for some people, "not recommended" means not necessary, while for other people, "not recommended" means "do not do it".

No. The verb in Italian is evitare, which means to avoid. It doesn´t have the meaning of something not being necessary.
The issue of presoaking or not gets quite heated at times in the black & white forums. What I mean is that Bellini instructions clearly suggest not doing that, but I have tried doing both ways, and haven´t noticed any difference in my results.

 

[miha]

By DX code. When the lab receives Velvia, it would mean "push +1/2 stops." It is exactly one minute extra time in FD. In my opinion, there is no need for extended FD time for Provia.

Highly unlikely, and certainly not in the same run.

 

[Samu]

Highly unlikely, and certainly not in the same run.

It depends of course on the setting. In Jobo or in big labs, who splice film in big rolls to be developed, you can't do different films, or push/pill in the same batch. But in minilab type systems, only a film or two is developed at each time, and it is easy to make such adjustments.

 

[koraks]

But in minilab type systems, only a film or two is developed at each time, and it is easy to make such adjustments.

E6 in a minilab...?

 

[Samu]

E6 in a minilab...?

In the past, there were many labs processing E6 in minilab type equipment. Nowadays, the small demand for the process makes maintaining a replenished process hard, and many of the labs still offering E6 have opted for running a batch in their Jobo every two weeks or so.

 

[koraks]

In the past, there were many labs processing E6 in minilab type equipment.

Oh. Back in the 1990s, the heyday of color film, I remember around here the department stores with 1 hour photo service that would process piles of CN negativea and prints would send out their E6 to centralized labs.

 

[Ben Hutcherson]

The lab I used a decent bit in Kentucky between 2015 and 2020 had a minilab-type machine for E6. In fact it didn't look all that different from the C41 Frontier sitting next to it other than being older and somewhat larger/longer.

The last E6 I sent them they ended up returning undeveloped as their machine was down. The last I spoke to them, they still expected to have it back online but it had been a drawn-out process. This lab apparently has/had mail order contracts with several camera stores and smaller labs in a several state radius, and that kept enough volume flowing in to run it a few times a week. I was one of the few people walking in the door with E6 at the time.

The pro lab I mentioned using(that closed in 2007) did use a huge spliced-roll continuous processor for E6. They did C41 on D&D.

 

[ChrisGalway]

With respect to this, is there a possibility that this is a translation issue?
I ask because, in English for some people, "not recommended" means not necessary, while for other people, "not recommended" means "do not do it".

I wrote to Bellini, and they confirmed that the pre-heat should definitely be dry, not wet.