band proofs???

[desertar]

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In order to auto-translate a paper about media archeology and old photographic films, I'm desperately looking for the (apparently) impossible english version or english translation for
"PROVINI IN BANDA"

It indicates the practice of printing all the frames on a long photographic paper (like 3x54-inches for a 36 negative roll, for example) with the "enlargement" limited to about 3x4 inches (7x10cm) per photo.
I think the french translation, by instance, could be "bande de lecture" (a reading, a preview)...
small prints side by side like in contact sheets but a bit larger and on a single line, not cut into strips (as uncut could be the film, cause a special device could realize it without cutting the film).
So, like proofs "in band", in strips, on a single line, or whatever, but with no relation to music!
It seems impossible to find it on internet, until now, but I can't believe that this (not uncommon) Italian old labs practice didn't existed elsewhere....

With enlarged gratitude for your future help,
Arianna

 

[Sirius Glass]

Welcome to APUG

 

[summicron1]

never heard of making proofs like that. Can you give more context for the quote?

 

[OzJohn]

Back in the day, many prolabs used to make strips of prints from an uncut, freshly developed film. Here in Oz they were called strip proofs and a neg reference was printed on the back of each print in much the same way as modern minilabs print stuff on the back. 4x5 was about the maximum size available. I doubt that there are many machines around today that could produce them because modern printers/minilabs work on the basis of roll feed/sheet develop ie the sheet is cut from the roll before it is developed, both processes taking place in the same machine. Although I have not seen the operation, I assume strip proofs were exposed on one machine then the roll was transferred to a continuous processor for development. OzJohn

 

[Doremus Scudder]

... "PROVINI IN BANDA" ...

I like "roll proofs." Here's a link to a 1990 Popular Photography ad page. https://books.google.at/books?id=ME...redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q="roll proofs"&f=false
The wedding photog advertises "roll proofs" in three different sizes.

Best,

Doremus

 

[Rick A]

When I worked as a portrait photographer, my company would routinely send me proofs in long rolled up strips so I could evaluate my work. I shot 70 mm long roll camera and they would send individual color proofs to our sales people, which I rarely ever saw. My roll proofs were B&W contact strips, of whatever length I had shot for that day.

 

[ic-racer]

An 8x10 enlarger will project 80 square inchs of any film to just about any size. Rollfilm strips etc. Some people do all their poof prints that way.

 

[desertar]

Thank you OzJohn! that's exactly what I meant !
And I needed it just to mention the only method of contact sheets in which the film could remain intact:uncut (yes, they were made with a special machine).

 

[desertar]

Thanks ic-racer, Rick, Summicron 1, Sirius and Doremus (especially for the link), and God bless photography forums! (I was in quest of this translation for a month!) :w00t:


Roll proofs should be just the right word, or even strip proofs, according to OzJohn.


PS: they still offer it in Italian prolabs, but they're definitely not cheap as in the 90's!