Back Focus Troubles

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I used my Contax RTS II Quartz for some 'Street Photos' fitted with the 50mm f1.4 Carl Zeiss Planar T* and they were all NOT SHARP where I had focussed -- detail behind the subject was sharper -- so then I tried it on my Yashica FR1 and sharpness was much better so it looks as if the Contax has focussing screen problems but I had a look ( as it is 'Removeable') and could not see any 'play' in it .

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Turned the screen upside down?
(Just a guess. I don't know that camera in detail, and actually can't believe it can be done.)
 

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It's unlikely that the screen is in upside down. The off-center location of the tab should prevent that. But something that consistently happens in older cameras is that through time the stop for the mirror's down position gets hammered downward very slightly by thousands of tiny returning-mirror blows. This moves the mirror farther from both lens and focus screen, increasing the distance between them. To compensate for the increased distance you need to rack the lens back accordingly, which causes back-focusing on the film when the mirror is out of the way. Look under the mirror for most cameras (I don't know about this one specifically) and you will usually see a rest for the mirror, usually on the right side as you look in.

These usually have some hint of an adjustment mechanism--a lever with a screw, an eccentric screw, something like that. My Nikon FGs have quite a complex lever and screw adjustment, but the simpler FG20 has a small post that you can easily bend up into the proper position. When you find what needs to be done, you really do NOT need to do much. So little that you think you have done nothing at all will likely be too much. Not having complex equipment to measure this, I've always relied on making visual infinity focus through the finder coincide with when the scale on the lend reads infinity, and this has not failed me on several different camera brands. I bet the way yours is right now that you can't quite get there, because the lens won't go past infinity, of course (but in the situations you have noticed, it will go past, for instance 15 feet to 17 feet). If you have a rangefinder viewing screen notice it will be even easier to see the system stops before infinity is achieved. . .
 

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Maladjustment of the mirror stop yields an oblique plane of focus.

Focusing onto a target plane in parallel to the film plane will easily show this fault in the finder.
 

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I used my Contax RTS II Quartz for some 'Street Photos' fitted with the 50mm f1.4 Carl Zeiss Planar T* and they were all NOT SHARP where I had focussed --]

Not sure about RTS II but some other Contax models and Yashica can have their mirrors adjusted as follows:
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Also consider if the filim is not held flat, the focus shifts to the rear of the intended location. My SL2000f was notoriuos for this.
 

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Interesting mirror adjustment, shown in that manual.


Thus:
Maladjustment of the mirror stop yields an oblique plane of focus.
Focusing onto a target plane in parallel to the film plane will easily show this fault in the finder.

is not valid here, but misalignment actually can lead to parallel focus shift in this case.
 
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Thanks for all your help -- I will try some tests tomorrow in the daylight -- I have a small Microscope slide that was ground I can use as a Focussing Screen in the film plane and a 6x magnifier .
 
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