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ericdan

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A few things I found working out well for me over the past 4-5 years.
Maybe this could help some new people out there.

All film/dev combos have been determined using distilled water at 20 degrees in Paterson tanks. Everything is based on min time for max black on Adox MCC110 fiber based paper in Dektol 1:2. (I don't print everything, for s¢4n§, I found that the development process is much less important)
  • Delta 3200 shot at 3200 in Microphen stock for 20 mins. (The 9 mins recommended by Ilford result in very thin negatives for me)
  • HP5+ shot at 800 in Microphen 1:1 for 15 mins.
  • Tri-X shot at 500 in Microphen 1:1 for 11 min 30 sec.
  • Anything that was shot on my Holga gets Rodinal 1:100 stand development. with 1 agitation at 30 mins. (Delta 3200, Tri-X, etc)
Agitation scheme used: First min continuous agitation. 3 agitations every min after that.
I shoot all B&W films with a yellow filter. Sometimes orange.

Film Development:
  • I don't pre-soak my film
  • I use citric acid stop batch for 30 sec.
  • I fix in neutral fixer for 5 mins.
  • Rinse film quickly after fixing
  • Soak in HCA for 2 minutes (Fuji Quickwash)
  • wash film for 10 mins (continuous exchange of water)
  • Fill tank with water and let stand for 30 mins to 1 hour
  • Fuji Driwell 30 sec for film to reduce water spots (may be a Japan only product)
--> film comes out much flatter, pink/purple dies completely wash out (distilled water only)

Fiber Paper Development:
Adox MCC110
  • Develop in Dektol 1:2 for 120 seconds constant agitation
  • Citric Acid stop batch - I don't really time this
  • Fix in Neutral Fixer for 60 seconds
  • Let is sit in holding tray with flowing water
  • HCA (Fuji Quick Wash) for 120 seconds
  • Wash in flowing water for 15 mins
  • Soak in Fuij AgGuard for 30 sec
  • Hang on one corner with laundry clips to dry over night (5x7)
  • Hang on two corners with laundry clip to dry over night (8x10 and up)
--> I've tried the screen drying with emulsion down, but that usually curls a lot more than hang drying them.
When you hang dry paper you eliminate local spots of water that I believe are responsible for a lot of the curling.
You will get small marks on the corners from the clips, but they don't bother me much.
I believe the AgGuard may play a large role in keeping the paper flat, too.

**Stand development:
worked well for a while. Using the min time for max black technique I got about 500-640 ISO out of Tri-X. The problem was inconsistency that I failed to notice for months. I know people swear by it, but it will surprise you one day. For Holga shots I don't care much. I can't control the exposure anyways, so I run that film through stand development and generally like the results a lot.
 
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It's good that you have combinations that work for you. Personally, I've never met a film or developer I didn't like.

Neal Wydra
 

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Looks good, except for one concern.
I'm not sure about your film washing routine - just allowing the film to stand in water is more likely to result in fixer in the film reaching a state of equilibrium than it is likely to result in film being washed (almost) free of fixer. You need at least some changes of water - either a gentle flow (full change at least once every 5 minutes) or a set of several fill, agitate and dump sequences.
Either choice will result in film passing a residual fixer test like this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...ers_Formulary_03_0150_Residual_Hypo_Test.html. They also won't take as long as your method takes.
The existence or absence of a pink or purple colour is no indication of whether or not the film has been sufficiently washed - excess residual fixer is essentially invisible, and doesn't cause obvious problems until a considerable time later.
 

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Sorry. There’s a 10 mins film wash after the HCA step. I use the Paterson pressure wash adapter.
In that case, it all looks great!
 
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It's good that you have combinations that work for you. Personally, I've never met a film or developer I didn't like.

Neal Wydra
I haven't really found one I don't like either. I just like what I get with Microphen better. Decided to stop trying other developers.
 
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Best choice ever, just find one developer you like and stick with it.
I know... at one point I had five different developers. Thought I was prepared for all films and situations.
Developer went bad, never got to really know one developer and how it works in different situations. Really a waste of time.
One developer is the way to go. Better even one developer one film.
 

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Best choice ever, just find one developer you like and stick with it.

I know... at one point I had five different developers. Thought I was prepared for all films and situations.
Developer went bad, never got to really know one developer and how it works in different situations. Really a waste of time.
One developer is the way to go. Better even one developer one film.

Y*E*S*!*!​
 

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I shower with my film for the final rinse, saves money and time.
 

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can you elaborate on that?

Oy.

A joke I need to explain?

Welp, here goes.

After the fixer is poured all over my favorite pair of pants and the roll of film comes out of the reel like a hair ball, instead of trying to re-roll it I hang it up in the shower and jump in. It's tough keeping the T-Sal off of it. Salicylic acid is bad for the emulsion.

(Read in Jackie Mason voice)
 
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Oy.

A joke I need to explain?

Welp, here goes.

After the fixer is poured all over my favorite pair of pants and the roll of film comes out of the reel like a hair ball, instead of trying to re-roll it I hang it up in the shower and jump in. It's tough keeping the T-Sal off of it. Salicylic acid is bad for the emulsion.

(Read in Jackie Mason voice)
I'll try that.
 

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If you switch to Head & Shoulders Clinical Strength you might be able to tone the negatives :smile:
 
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