B&W landscape masters?

[Malice]

To not know that Edward Weston was a landscape photographer indicates quite a profound ignorance of the subject. .

Are you trying to say, that I can't be fan of b&w landscape photography if I don't know ALL american phtographers, ALL facts from their lives, ALL photos they have ever made? I understand that you know perfectly works of: Bułhak, Pierściński, Wołkow, Hejke, Kamoda...
I'm afraid more than 90% people in my country have never heard about Edward Weston. From that remaining 10% maybe 1% have ever seen any landscape photos of Weston.

 

[Old_Dick]

+1 for Doremus

 

[Bob Carnie]

If city scenes are landscapes- then we need to include Sudek and Brassai

 

[RobC]

take a look here and work your way through the A-Z of photographers. Not all landscape photographers but you'll get a much broader range of photographers than the usual relatively contemporary ones that most people know.

http://www.mpritchard.com/photohistory/

 

[Doremus Scudder]

+1 for Doremus

Thanks Dick! And you guys are looking at old work on my website, etc. I'm in the process of an update and new work should be up there in a month or so.

Best,

Doremus

 

[drkhalsa]

Thanks Dick! And you guys are looking at old work on my website, etc. I'm in the process of an update and new work should be up there in a month or so.

Best,

Doremus

Yay!

 

[jeffreyg]

Add Eliot Porter to the list.

http://www.jeffreyglasser.com/

 

[DREW WILEY]

These lists go on and on. Depends on what generation you are. I'll admit I tend to ridicule all this hero worship nonsense. Go out and do something
yourself. But then, I've also learned a lot from some of them. So rather than making a list, I'll just frankly note those names that have had special
relevance to me personally, and they are admittedly titans of the genre already mentioned: Carleton Watkins and PH Emerson in the late 19thC, Edward and Brett Weston in the early to mid 20th. Eliot Porter in color. I authentically consider myself equal to many of the living names, so either ridicule me, or canonize me onto another list once I'm officially eligible, as in dead. That seems to be the prerequisite.

 

[amellice]

These lists go on and on. Depends on what generation you are. I'll admit I tend to ridicule all this hero worship nonsense. Go out and do something
yourself. But then, I've also learned a lot from some of them. So rather than making a list, I'll just frankly note those names that have had special
relevance to me personally, and they are admittedly titans of the genre already mentioned: Carleton Watkins and PH Emerson in the late 19thC, Edward and Brett Weston in the early to mid 20th. Eliot Porter in color. I authentically consider myself equal to many of the living names, so either ridicule me, or canonize me onto another list once I'm officially eligible, as in dead. That seems to be the prerequisite.

Although Eliot Porter is mostly famous for his color photographs, he did some amazing work in B&W

 

[DREW WILEY]

Eliot got on the map doing black and white, via Stieglitz. It was his obsession with birds that led him into color printing. Later he sometimes took his
red separation negatives for dye transfer work (made from chrome film) and printed these as ordinary black and white prints. Not much of the later
b&w has been decently published. Some of the earlier ones have been.

 

[Bob Carnie]

What was special about the red separation negative that made him want to print black and white from?

Eliot got on the map doing black and white, via Stieglitz. It was his obsession with birds that led him into color printing. Later he sometimes took his
red separation negatives for dye transfer work (made from chrome film) and printed these as ordinary black and white prints. Not much of the later
b&w has been decently published. Some of the earlier ones have been.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Nothing, Bob. Since it was contacted from a chrome it wouldn't even have anywhere near the range of of a shot taken with ordinary black and white film in the first place. But color film is what he shot at the time, and afterwards he might have wanted to see the same image in black and white. The red separation would have given him darker greens and skies just like a red filter over a camera lens. What dye transfer printers sometimes did was
to print monochrome images using black dye with matrix film rather than printing on normal papers. The advantage of this was the greater intensity
of black dye or DMax in the print versus a silver image. The disadvantage is that it would be somewhat less sharp. I've never tried that myself, though
I have printed onto bromide papers using single separation negs from chromes. It was fun, so what the heck! Why not.

 

[Bob Carnie]

This is an area that I am testing over the next few years, I have seen some amazing negatives from digital separations, I am waiting until I can put on real film via the lambda. the opportunities are quite open and maybe he saw something in the red negative that appealed to his sensibilities.

I am working a lot with CMY negative separations as well as tonal negative separations and learning a lot.
some of it actually useless but some surprising happy separations.

Nothing, Bob. Since it was contacted from a chrome it wouldn't even have anywhere near the range of of a shot taken with ordinary black and white film in the first place. But color film is what he shot at the time, and afterwards he might have wanted to see the same image in black and white. The red separation would have given him darker greens and skies just like a red filter over a camera lens. What dye transfer printers sometimes did was
to print monochrome images using black dye with matrix film rather than printing on normal papers. The advantage of this was the greater intensity
of black dye or DMax in the print versus a silver image. The disadvantage is that it would be somewhat less sharp. I've never tried that myself, though
I have printed onto bromide papers using single separation negs from chromes. It was fun, so what the heck! Why not.

 

[DREW WILEY]

I only did this briefly, back when I considered myself strictly a color photographer and never carried b&w film, but was doing a range of lab experimentation anyway. In-camera separations would be a different subject, with all the range of ordinary b&w film shots. Nowadays I sometimes
shoot with a deep blue separation filter because I covet the atmospheric look of old blue-sensitive films. I'm not after any "old-fashioned" wannabee look; but there was often a distinct beauty to their inherent limitation in spectral sensitivity. Interesting that you're going CMY instead of CMYK.

 

[RobC]

Thanks Dick! And you guys are looking at old work on my website, etc. I'm in the process of an update and new work should be up there in a month or so.

Best,

Doremus

I had a peek too and there are some very pleasing images in your current online portfolio.
I have to say that my heart sinks a bit everytime I see another rendition of Antelope Canyon but I guess its a right of passage for landscape photographers who live in them there parts to photograph it . In the Uk we all photograph Church interiors when we are starting out becasue they have such good contrasty lighting and are to be found everywhere. Took me a couple of years to get bored of that subject matter and move on.

 

[Paul_T]

 

[TheToadMen]

Hi Paul,
That's some serious large printing. Nice to see how that's done. Is that you in this in this film?

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Hello
Can you name at least three great masters of B@W landscape photography?
I have tried lately.
1) Michael Kenna
2) Ansel Adams
3) Eeee.... Michael Kenna?
But probably I'm missing someone. Any suggestions?
M_alice
PS. Probably I should mention something that is called "Kielecka szkoła krajobrazu" but it's a group of people, not one person.

John Sexton,Alan Ross

 

[Bob Carnie]

These lists go on and on. Depends on what generation you are. I'll admit I tend to ridicule all this hero worship nonsense. Go out and do something
yourself. But then, I've also learned a lot from some of them. So rather than making a list, I'll just frankly note those names that have had special
relevance to me personally, and they are admittedly titans of the genre already mentioned: Carleton Watkins and PH Emerson in the late 19thC, Edward and Brett Weston in the early to mid 20th. Eliot Porter in color. I authentically consider myself equal to many of the living names, so either ridicule me, or canonize me onto another list once I'm officially eligible, as in dead. That seems to be the prerequisite.

Ok Drew I somehow missed this post... I think you need to somehow show us the goods, I only read about how great you can be but I really want you to show us the work.
No way will I let you get away from saying the internet cannot show the magnitude of your work... I look at images all the time on the web and can tell the good from the bad.
I will admit you are indeed the most interesting person I have met here on APUG and Large Format in a long time, but with announcement above I think you need to show me the money shots.

 

[tedr1]

Alvin Langdon Coburn

 

[Paul_T]

Hi Paul,
That's some serious large printing. Nice to see how that's done. Is that you in this in this film?

Hi,

Yes that's me with Clyde, it's large (relative to who you're talking to) [image area about 52"x37.5"] but Clyde
makes fiber prints up to 5'x9' [framed out] so to him it's perhaps medium?¿

 

[Eric Rose]

Many APUG members. The gallery has some stunning B&W landscape photos.

 

[TheToadMen]

Many APUG members. The gallery has some stunning B&W landscape photos.

+1

 

[megzdad81]

Clyde Butcher

 

[Terry Breedlove]

Peter Lik


Hahahahaha so sorry my bad

 

[LAG]

Excuse me

These lists go on and on. Depends on what generation you are. I'll admit I tend to ridicule all this hero worship nonsense. Go out and do something yourself.

I completely agree

... I authentically consider myself equal to many of the living names, so either ridicule me, or canonize me onto another list once I'm officially eligible, as in dead. That seems to be the prerequisite.

Interesting insight

Awesome darkoom (not the manners). Anyway Mr. Butcher is admirable. Thanks for the video