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Vaughn, if you ever come into some spare cash for audio, there's a guy named Craig Ostby that does a very fine job at restoring old Scott and Heathkit amplifiers.

Also, check out what Pierre Sprey does to old Scott amplifiers at Mapleshade records and audio:
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Ultra-Modified-Vintage-Tube-Amps/products/178/

I'm going to have him upgrade my Scott amplifier when I have the cash to do so. They are amazing.

I had not thought of having it restored. I probably will not have it done...at least as long as it works. I should dig out my turntable I bought back in the early 80's or thereabouts and maybe go buy some used records. It would seem strange to hook up a CD player to it -- like hooking up a digital back to my Eastman View no.2

For several years I thought it was failing. It would have a low hum. It magically "fixed" itself when I removed the cassette deck I had directly above it. A bit of interference going on, I guess. Some of the lettering is gone from around the knobs and switches. It is a bit dusty, which is probably not good for it. I replaced one of the power tubes 20 years ago or so. My BIL also has a Scott Tube receiver, but I do not know what model.

I guess it is safe to say I am not an audiophile.

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My two favorite tube amps don't sound 'warm' at all. They are extremely fast, dynamic, liquid, punchy, start and stop the speaker drivers extremely quickly, and will give you a very unveiled and clear presentation of what's actually on the source material. There is absolutely nothing euphonic, 'soft', or warm about it.

Some tube amps are this way, but so are some solid state amps.

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I agree with Alan.

Audiophiles do tend to get a little weird around their stuff, I mean; silver power cords, 300B single ended amplifiers producing 7 watts costing $25,000 per side, gold plated conductors, multi thousand dollar turntables.........and the guys that can afford this stuff are in their 60s (or better) and partly deaf!!!

Having said that, I do like tube amplifiers as a basic babe magnet.
 

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I agree with Alan.

Audiophiles do tend to get a little weird around their stuff, I mean; silver power cords, 300B single ended amplifiers producing 7 watts costing $25,000 per side, gold plated conductors, multi thousand dollar turntables.........and the guys that can afford this stuff are in their 60s (or better) and partly deaf!!!

Having said that, I do like tube amplifiers as a basic babe magnet.

Yeah, well my tin-foil hat has better reception than your tin-foil hat because I had mine DE-oxygenated before it was gold-plated.

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Wooow... He said "Year of the cat" is one of his favorite albums sonically.
I is mine too... my wife thinks I am silly to love that album so much.
I like ELO also... Al didn't mention that one.
 
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Room treatment is probably THE most overlooked part of listening at home. But it too can get pricey very quickly! One of the better solutions, although few do this, is to have a dedicated music room.

I have heard some very expensive equipment in horrible sounding rooms, while the owner told me how great it sounded! Conversely, I have a friend with a relatively modest system (by today's standards) that sounds amazing in his dedicated room.

Like photography, I think you cross the threshold when you can compare different technologies and start to focus on the ones that appeal to your tastes.
 

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Room treatment is probably THE most overlooked part of listening at home. But it too can get pricey very quickly!

Resonances in a room are even more of a problem with live sound as the venue owners don't like us modifying their buildings. Instead we use graphic equalisers to tame the response of the system at points coincident with the room's resonance points creating an overall flat response.

When you see someone using a graphic as a tone control, or worse, with a smiley face curve, it is not being used correctly.


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In my own house I gave judiciously placed colored "sculptures" on the wall made from cardboard egg cartons. They dampen things quite well.
 

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In my own house I gave judiciously placed colored "sculptures" on the wall made from cardboard egg cartons. They dampen things quite well.

Sorry to disappoint you, but egg cartons do not have enough density to make much difference!

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Sorry to disappoint you, but egg cartons do not have enough density to make much difference!

This is all you have to do: Dead Link Removed Steve.

Thanks! I have printed out several copies and lined my walls with it -- the acoustics of the room is greatly improved!
 

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Thanks! I have printed out several copies and lined my walls with it -- the acoustics of the room is greatly improved!
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Class A, triode or ultralinear, tube rectified, driving decent speakers is nice :wink:
 

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Sorry to disappoint you, but egg cartons do not have enough density to make much difference!

This is all you have to do: Dead Link Removed


Steve.

I don't know. You don't realize how smart my chickens are. I've got dynamic egg cartons.
 

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I hope you used a matte finish paper - the glossy has too many reflections! :whistling:
Presoak in water for a few hours and glossy no more :laugh:
The use of egg cartons throughout the vacum tube history is the explanation behind the chicken head knobs
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I agree with Alan.

Audiophiles do tend to get a little weird around their stuff, I mean; silver power cords, 300B single ended amplifiers producing 7 watts costing $25,000 per side, gold plated conductors, multi thousand dollar turntables.........and the guys that can afford this stuff are in their 60s (or better) and partly deaf!!!

Having said that, I do like tube amplifiers as a basic babe magnet.

Parsons is completely right... up to a point. My analog system is not expensive. NAD pre-amp and amp, Project turntable, so-so cartridge, Warfdale Sapphire (yawn!) speakers. Yet with all of that mundane equipment, my sound is really really good. How did I do it? I listened to my local sound engineer and made some minor adjustments in my listening room. I put a rug on the cement floor. I added sound baffling furniture. I added a large bookcase for my vinyl collection. Most importantly, I positioned my speakers optimally. A 1" movement + a very small orientation change for each speaker did a world of good. It didn't cost me a penny in new audio hardware.

That being said, I had a chance to listen to a friend's Macintosh system with all tube electronics and $40,000 speakers. What a HUGE difference. I thought my sound was good but his sound was out of this world. I know we are talking about a quantum leap in equpment, not some stupid little change of speaker or interconnect cables.

I was a sucker an bought a pair of expensive interconnects (with a money-back guarantee, thank God) for my system. It didn't make even the smallest difference. Yet when I told another friend that I spent $300 on stupid cables and then had him listen to the system, he was "blown away" by the sound difference. There was no sound difference, but the placebo effect that $$$ brings. I returned the cables for a refund of course.

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Resonances in a room are even more of a problem with live sound as the venue owners don't like us modifying their buildings. Instead we use graphic equalisers to tame the response of the system at points coincident with the room's resonance points creating an overall flat response.

When you see someone using a graphic as a tone control, or worse, with a smiley face curve, it is not being used correctly.


Steve.

What? You mean the stereotypical (groan!!) gull wing curve shape applied to EQ sliders doesn't work for all rooms in all situations? Oh Shoot! :D
 

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I used to love the advice to remove the telephone from the room.

Ok, sure the two little bells were a resonance source. But you have to draw the line at "too weird" somewhere, and for me it was before this.
 
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