Artificial intelligence.

[Sean]

sorry wrong link this one should be right--> https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/2023449238114320514?s=20

Chinese director gives it a whirl. This is Seedance 2.0, if you notice any oddities or anything slightly off, I would expect that to be gone in Seedance 3.0.

In the hands of a skilled artist, what does this AI work become? Is it still slop?

Has anyone discussed how this technology might be equitable, removing all gatekeepers and barriers to entry? Anyone in any situation could be their own film studio. Is being against it, being against equitable outcomes for all? Who am I to demand everyone must play the game (film school, grunt work, clawing your way up the industry ladder, etc)? I might not like it, but objectively, it means that soon, anyone in any part of the world or financial status could create a 300 million dollar blockbuster film. Is that a bad thing? Will it all be slop or will the cream rise to the top? Are we only being subjective about this opportunity?

There may also be environmental questions. A blockbuster film is a city sized effort, estimated 3,500 tons of pollution at the core of it. An AI blockbuster would be estimated 1 ton. "But more people will make more films, creating more pollution".. Well, a new photonic/metamaterial based chip is already being built and heavily backed. 1 of these chips = 100 GPUs and is 1% the power usage of 100 GPUs. Eventually a film studio capable system will run locally on a cellphone.

Don't get me wrong, I am quite irked AI companies have chosen to encroach on the arts. I would rather those cycles be put elsewhere. At the same time, am I the one with the problem? Am I refusing to be objective due to feeling less special, or humans becoming less required in art? It's a lot to ponder.

 

[Pieter12]

ABBA sang Money Money Money ….

Ai is about nothing but money, in its every application. It’s a primitive way to enhance our live, and what sells progresses, takes over, and then … it is over. Humans will have become robots of their own making.

If AI takes over, will it still be about money? Are greed and power baked into the programming?

 

[koraks]

https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/2023449238114320514?s=20

Wow.
The potential of this is amazing.
And yes, humanity said that about nuclear power as well.

 

[Cholentpot]

ABBA sang Money Money Money ….

Ai is about nothing but money, in its every application. It’s a primitive way to enhance our live, and what sells progresses, takes over, and then … it is over. Humans will have become robots of their own making.

Outside of the creatives AI has been very helpful in my life. You just have to harness it instead of the other way around. I'm in control here, not the computer.

 

[Pieter12]

Ai is about nothing but money, in its every application.

Is AI all about money? Or is it just the tool being used by those who are all about money? There are many applications of AI that are about speed and efficiency and although those can relate to money, they also relate to benefits to mankind and society. It is all about how AI is applied and by whom.

 

[warden]

sorry wrong link this one should be right--> https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/2023449238114320514?s=20

Chinese director gives it a whirl. This is Seedance 2.0, if you notice any oddities or anything slightly off, I would expect that to be gone in Seedance 3.0.

In the hands of a skilled artist, what does this AI work become? Is it still slop?

Has anyone discussed how this technology might be equitable, removing all gatekeepers and barriers to entry? Anyone in any situation could be their own film studio. Is being against it, being against equitable outcomes for all? Who am I to demand everyone must play the game (film school, grunt work, clawing your way up the industry ladder, etc)? I might not like it, but objectively, it means that soon, anyone in any part of the world or financial status could create a 300 million dollar blockbuster film. Is that a bad thing? Will it all be slop or will the cream rise to the top? Are we only being subjective about this opportunity?

There may also be environmental questions. A blockbuster film is a city sized effort, estimated 3,500 tons of pollution at the core of it. An AI blockbuster would be estimated 1 ton. "But more people will make more films, creating more pollution".. Well, a new photonic/metamaterial based chip is already being built and heavily backed. 1 of these chips = 100 GPUs and is 1% the power usage of 100 GPUs. Eventually a film studio capable system will run locally on a cellphone.

Don't get me wrong, I am quite irked AI companies have chosen to encroach on the arts. I would rather those cycles be put elsewhere. At the same time, am I the one with the problem? Am I refusing to be objective due to feeling less special, or humans becoming less required in art? It's a lot to ponder.

That is an amazing video. I tried to watch it without looking for AI tells, which is hard to do if you know that it’s AI, but still I only found one instance that would have made me suspect AI. Incredible.

 

[koraks]

I only found one instance that would have made me suspect AI.

Was it related to that river cruise boat going something like 65mph while not making a massive bow wave? That one was gold! Honestly that was also the only bit that struck my eye (I was also not looking specifically for give-aways), apart perhaps from the awkward facial expression of the 'AI actor' (which, of course, they all were...but the one in the funny suit).

 

[gbroadbridge]

AI of course did not notice a continuity error in one scene.. but that's not its job.
Yet.

 

[MattKing]

AI of course did not notice a continuity error in one scene.. but that's not its job.
Yet.

I would expect it would be excellent for that purpose, once set up appropriately.

 

[gbroadbridge]

I would expect it would be excellent for that purpose, once set up appropriately.

My understanding is that the AI model only creates individual shots which would then be assembled into a scene during editing - same as a traditional movie.

The continuity error I spotted is not an image generation problem, but an edit error

The video image generation is amazing.

I guess that agents are going start to be licensing talent imaging rights rather than the talent themselves over the next few years.

 

[Pieter12]

https://x.com/RuairiRobinson/status/2021394940757209134

 

[warden]

Was it related to that river cruise boat going something like 65mph while not making a massive bow wave? That one was gold! Honestly that was also the only bit that struck my eye (I was also not looking specifically for give-aways), apart perhaps from the awkward facial expression of the 'AI actor' (which, of course, they all were...but the one in the funny suit).

At 4:14 the way the set travels and disappears seemed AI to me.

 

[MattKing]

My understanding is that the AI model only creates individual shots which would then be assembled into a scene during editing - same as a traditional movie.

The continuity error I spotted is not an image generation problem, but an edit error

The video image generation is amazing.

I guess that agents are going start to be licensing talent imaging rights rather than the talent themselves over the next few years.

You are limiting your consideration of AI here to a tiny snippet of the wide gamut of potential applications.
A continuity checking application would be a natural, because continuity checking depends on pattern recognition, something that AI tools are extremely proficient at.
It wouldn't be used just with AI generated video. It would be equally valuable with movies shot the old fashioned way.

 

[gbroadbridge]

You are limiting your consideration of AI here to a tiny snippet of the wide gamut of potential applications.

I was limiting my comments only to the example provided, which is of course only one possible use for AI even in film/tv production - an area in which I am very well acquainted

The potential outside of that scope is also limitless and is going to be extremely disruptive, even in the short term.
But every technology advance provides opportunities as well as disruption, so the world will adapt.