Art photos are manipulations

[Alan Edward Klein]

That's all very fine and good when talking about photojournalism and evidentiary photographs. But this conversation was started about ART. Art has no need of ethical standards for how to include or exclude subject matter (plenty of other ethical standards could/should be applied, but the method of getting to Point B, with art, is largely irrelevant). Not all photography is art, and not all art is photography.

That was my point. We're in agreement.

 

[MattKing]

That's all very fine and good when talking about photojournalism and evidentiary photographs. But this conversation was started about ART. Art has no need of ethical standards for how to include or exclude subject matter (plenty of other ethical standards could/should be applied, but the method of getting to Point B, with art, is largely irrelevant). Not all photography is art, and not all art is photography.

I think the problem occurred when a reference was made to "truth".
I posted that photographs aren't truth.
I probably should have posted that truth and art may coincide, but frequently don't.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I think the problem occurred when a reference was made to "truth".
I posted that photographs aren't truth.
I probably should have posted that truth and art may coincide, but frequently don't.

Art doesn't have to be truthful or not truthful. It doesn;t have to tell a story. It can inspire awe, gladden the heart, or just be visually beautiful.

 

[KenS]

Photographic images are but a something hung on a wall to hide the 'remains' of either the large spider or that 'annoying' fly that was 'crushed' by a rapid hefty splat of the rubberized fly swatter.

Ken

 

[Pieter12]

Photographic images are but a something hung on a wall to hide the 'remains' of either the large spider or that 'annoying' fly that was 'crushed' by a rapid hefty splat of the rubberized fly swatter.

Ken

But isn't the remains of the spider or fly art--kind of like the banana duct-taped to the wall last December at Art Basel?

 

[Vaughn]

Photographic images are but a something hung on a wall to hide the 'remains' of either the large spider or that 'annoying' fly that was 'crushed' by a rapid hefty splat of the rubberized fly swatter.

Ken

I got spiders who take care of that...

And "Art" can be pretty damn ugly, too.

 

[Pieter12]

 

[KenS]

But isn't the remains of the spider or fly art--kind of like the banana duct-taped to the wall last December at Art Basel?
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The Banana is still 'edible' when you are hungry... I would be more than hesitant to scrape the remains of that fly and placing it in between two 'buttered' slices of 'home made bread in the hopes that it might stave off any 'hunger pains'... to quote an old 'adage' (from my teenage years in Glasgow)...
"Pit her doon Jock!!!!.. You don't know where she's been"

Ken

 

[removed account4]

The Banana is still 'edible' when you are hungry

YES!! and someone ate it after it was bought ...

 

[KenS]

YES!! and someone ate it after it was bought ...

Only if it was in their 'basket' at the check-out.
If it had been 'consumed' before going through the check-out might it be considered an illegal "freebie"

Ken

 

[MattKing]

If you cannot change your position, camera angle or lens to not show only one cow, then by demonstrated facts you would have shown me that your photographs are not worth my time to look at.

If you cannot change your position, camera angle or lens to not show only one cow, then by demonstrated facts you would have shown me that your photographs are not worth my time to look at.

Unless you have physical or mental problems, your brain doesn;t see cows if they weren't in the scene to begin with.

Have an issue with cows?

So my wife and I were out driving today, and this sign presented itself:

Naturally, it made me think of this thread!
So of course we had to stop, and I had to investigate further.
First I came upon this:

And then I turned and saw this:

Which leaves me with the conundrum:
One cow?
Three cows?
No cows?
No real cows?
I don't think they are manipulated cows?

 

[Vaughn]

Cowabunga, Man!

Om Cow
Too Cow
Sea Cow
Fore...

 

[Pieter12]

 

[jjss1993]

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heck ya

 

[markjwyatt]

Fake cow on roller skates?


Cow Are You? by Mark Wyatt, on Flickr

 

[MattKing]

This thread certainly went in an udderly unexpected direction.

 

[markjwyatt]

This thread certainly went in an udderly unexpected direction.

No one expects a bovine inquisition!

 

[jvo]

Fake cow on roller skates?


Cow Are You? by Mark Wyatt, on Flickr

all cows are manipulated!!!

(we're back on track. Right???)