Are Leica lenses getting too expensive for Ken Rockwell?

[Huss]

I don't understand this attitude towards him. Regardless of what one makes of his style and marketing he seems fairly well informed.

I was interested in the Sony A7 when it first came out, and his tests were the only one that mentioned - and illustrated with photographs - the awful sensor reflections it suffered from when there were bright light sources in the image.
No-one else did, Huff etc. They all claimed it was the best thing ever etc etc
So KR can be a useful resource.

And he promotes film use.

 

[Prest_400]

I like Ken.
(...)
Ken also got me interested in large format with his Tachihara article. I started with a Cambo SC 4x5 and then went to the Tachihara 4x5. I now own a Wehman 8x10.

I don't agree with everything Ken says. I don't agree with everything anyone says. Like him or not, his website does have a lot of useful information for film users as well as digital users.

That's it. I really liked him back in 2009 (I was getting in the world and lots to learn) and his "passion" for film back then helped me get into it. I was intrigued by 4x5 LF because of his high opinion of LF (and Velvia) back then.
And for getting to know the 80s-90s Nikkor zoom lens lineup it has been very useful.

Well at least he isn't bullsheeting about those lenses.

Now let's talk about steve huff a little bit. Is he really in contact with BB.King's and Robin William's ghosts as he claims to be?

Google it.

Oh wow, didn't know about it. I dropped usual reading of SH quite a while ago, I think it's the "way too much positive" vibe of the site, too exaggerated somehow.

It's about finding entretainment value and contrasting information.

 

[RichardJack]

They are getting too expensive for everyone and overrated as well.

 

[faberryman]

I stopped reading Steve Huff years ago when I discovered that he has a companion website where he runs a business holding seances, investigating the paranormal, and selling "portals" so people can communicate with their dear departed. I'm serious; he is loony-tunes. I don't read Ken Rockwell either -way too much hyperbole about his favorite brands - but his site is a good archive of old technical information from manufacturers.

 

[Helios 1984]

Why concern yourself with Ken Rockwell's opinion? All of us, any of us are more knowledgeable about photography than he ever will be.

Oh snap!


I still read him on occasions, however, always with a pinch of salt.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Well watch the salt consumption. Too much salt is not good for you.

 

[removed account4]

I stopped reading Steve Huff years ago when I discovered that he has a companion website where he runs a business holding seances, investigating the paranormal, and selling "portals" so people can communicate with their dear departed. I'm serious; he is loony-tunes. I don't read Ken Rockwell either -way too much hyperbole about his favorite brands - but his site is a good archive of old technical information from manufacturers.

whats the difference between ken rockwell on his site and his hyberbole about his favorite brands
and people here, who love their om, or their hassy, or chamonoix, or deardorff, or their tmy2, or xtol or rodinal ?
its all opinion. there are wheelbarrows full of hyperbole on this site ... it doesn't seem much different ..
after all some people have scientific evidence their cameras and lenses are better, here, he just likes them better on his site ...

 

[Hatchetman]

They are getting too expensive for everyone and overrated as well.

Exactly.

 

[Sirius Glass]

whats the difference between ken rockwell on his site and his hyberbole about his favorite brands
and people here, who love their om, or their hassy, or chamonoix, or deardorff, or their tmy2, or xtol or rodinal ?
its all opinion. there are wheelbarrows full of hyperbole on this site ... it doesn't seem much different ..
after all some people have scientific evidence their cameras and lenses are better, here, he just likes them better on his site ...

The big difference is that the people here freely admit their camera prejudices, while Ken Rockwell passes them off as both truth and gospel. Then KR takes great umbrage when someone calls him on it.

Sometimes when someones asks which is the best xxx camera, after a number of posts based on favorites, I will post that the thread is at the point that people are posting their favorites and not what might be best for the OP.

 

[faberryman]

whats the difference between ken rockwell on his site and his hyberbole about his favorite brands
and people here, who love their om, or their hassy, or chamonoix, or deardorff, or their tmy2, or xtol or rodinal ?
its all opinion. there are wheelbarrows full of hyperbole on this site ... it doesn't seem much different ..
after all...

People here are not pretending to review photographic equipment and asking you to send them money to support their growing family.

 

[Sirius Glass]

whats the difference between ken rockwell on his site and his hyberbole about his favorite brands
and people here, who love their om, or their hassy, or chamonoix, or deardorff, or their tmy2, or xtol or rodinal ?
its all opinion. there are wheelbarrows full of hyperbole on this site ... it doesn't seem much different ..
after all some people have scientific evidence their cameras and lenses are better, here, he just likes them better on his site ...

People here are not pretending to review photographic equipment and asking you to send them money to support their growing family.

What faberryman said, too.

 

[rthollenbeck]

Sometimes when someones asks which is the best xxx camera, after a number of posts based on favorites,

Asking what camera is best and then playing lawyer demanding anyone defend their assertions with a factual argument.....as if it is a discussion about the atomic weight of atoms..... borders on being asinine.
Reminds me of the Lincoln vs Cadillac debate in Donnie Brasco.

 

[fstop]

The big difference is that the people here freely admit their camera prejudices, while Ken Rockwell passes them off as both truth and gospel. Then KR takes great umbrage when someone calls him on it.

And the pot calls the kettle black hahahahahahahaha

 

[removed account4]

People here are not pretending to review photographic equipment and asking you to send them money to support their growing family.

maybe they are not doing it for money and asking for support for their growing family
but plenty of people review+give their opinions about everything from lens wipes to developers ..
the only thing that isn't happening is $ changing hands but who knows, then again
who knows ..... maybe some of the people with deep love hate relationships with certain gear/materials &c ARE being paid as undercover shills for the industry...
it wouldn't surprise me, i've seen stranger things...

 

[rthollenbeck]

maybe some of the people with deep love hate relationships with certain gear/materials &c ARE being paid as undercover shills for the industry...
it wouldn't surprise me, i've seen stranger things...

All these "operatives" being paid to endorse used photo equipment, that is no longer in production, by companies that no longer exist.

 

[faberryman]

...then again
who knows ..... maybe some of the people with deep love hate relationships with certain gear/materials &c ARE being paid as undercover shills for the industry...
it wouldn't surprise me, i've seen stranger things...

Sounds like we need some tin hat reviews.

 

[removed account4]

All these "operatives" being paid to endorse used photo equipment, that is no longer in production, by companies that no longer exist.

there are companies that still make film, chemistry, paper, accessories, cameras and lenses,
and there are plenty of camera dealers that sell them new and used, and people that sell them used here on apug and other sites as well as ebay &c
and as i said, plenty of people giving their opinions ( maybe paid by dealers/existing manufacturers, who knows ) about how japanese lenses are the spawn of the devil
and xtol is the best developer that has ever existed ... or how wonderful the schneider xxl fine art lenses are or pinkham smith, or port-land, or verito portrait lenses are,
or chamonix cameras exported from china, or how toyo darkslides are well worth the money you pay for them because their dark slides don't leak-light .. i could easily go on

Sounds like we need some tin hat reviews.

my collinder is working fine!

 

[faberryman]

plenty of people giving their opinions ( maybe paid by dealers, who knows ) about...how wonderful the schneider xxl fine art lenses are...

I've seen the resulting 20"x24" negative taken with a Schneider XXL Fine Art lens (I'm in it) and it is pretty wonderful!

[Just sent my invoice for undercover shilling to Schneider - not holding my breath that I'll be paid]

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

People here are not pretending to review photographic equipment and asking you to send them money to support their growing family.

I think its site has some interesting information and , like everyone else opinion,shold be taken with its grain of salt, opinion should be took with blind faith; that said, its nice to have some else opinion of a equipment that interest me before commiting to buy it.

Also, he can ask for money but it doesnt really meand I will give him anything . Also, dont seldom press click on the ads, because I get my equipment from either ebay (for deals and hard to find stuff) and known dealers.


Regards.

Marcelo.

 

[Alan Gales]

Let's see,

Best camera in the world: Mamiya 6 or Mamiya 7

Best digital camera: Fujifilm X100t soon to be dethroned by X100f

Best DSLR's: Canon (used to be Nikon)

These are Ken's opinions. He also explains why he has these opinions. It doesn't bother me what he likes. I own what I like and of course can afford. Anyone giving away a Mamiya 6 or 7?

 

[Sirius Glass]

And the pot calls the kettle black hahahahahahahaha

Actually I also recommend cameras that I do not use but will fill the need. I am not a Nikon only or Canon only or Minolta only guy for 35mm. I have recommended Rollei when it was the best solution for the OP. Mamiya Cxx not so much because I do not like them, they are too fiddly.

 

[cliveh]

How many Ken Rockwells does it take to change a camera lens?

I invite others to complete the joke.

 

[fstop]

I think I'm going to start a kickstarter fund raiser to buy lenses for KR.

 

[rpavich]

How many Ken Rockwells does it take to change a camera lens?

I invite others to complete the joke.

10,000.
Ken can change the lens just fine but the other 9,999 will spend weeks talking about how they could do it better and how lame he his and how much they dislike him and his site.

 

[rpavich]

Asking what camera is best and then playing lawyer demanding anyone defend their assertions with a factual argument.....as if it is a discussion about the atomic weight of atoms..... borders on being asinine.
Reminds me of the Lincoln vs Cadillac debate in Donnie Brasco.

Hahaha....oh yes. Played out on the internet thousands of times a day.