Archival Stability Ilford XP2 Super developed in B&W Chemistry

[drkhalsa]

Here is an older thread on the subject of developing XP2 Super in black and white developers:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/ilford-xp2-super-in-b-w-chemicals.145287/print

 

[pentaxuser]

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Here is an older thread on the subject of developing XP2 Super in black and white developers:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/ilford-xp2-super-in-b-w-chemicals.145287/print

Good one. I did a search and came up with that same thread last night as well. Worth a read IMO. There are several on this subject worth looking at. Interestingly there seemed to be much less hostility there than has occurred on this thread.

I could not come up with any reasons why this should be. Maybe Photrio is just getting grouchier. We need to take a long hard look at ourselves if this is the case.

pentaxuser

 

[foc]

hey matt

just to add to what you said
not sure who told this to me but the xpsuper negatives
were sometimes printed in a mini lab but the lab sometimes had to
sandwich a sheet of color negative film that had nothing on it but the orange mask
this person told me the brand of film to, "kodak gold"

but YMMV

The idea of colour neg/B&W neg sandwich was when negs were printed optically and the orange mask was to help the printer's colour correction "think " it was a colour neg. I tried this many years ago (before we had Frontier digital scanner) and at best it produces near b&w images, they still had colour cast. Around that time (early 1990's) Konica made a colour process paper that produced b&w prints , a bit like a paper version of XP2. We gave up using the orange mask and just printed on the Konica paper.

On any lab printer/scanner like the Fuji Frontier or Kodak Pakon, the neg is scanned. In the case of standard b&w or XP2 negs, the scanner needed to be set to b&w and it would the produce a b&w image with no colour casts. In the case of Kodak BW400CN (which had an orange mask) the software saw the orange mask and thought it was a colour film and if scanned as such produced colour cast images. The trick was to select the software to B&W output, like desaturate in Photoshop, and the image would appear b&w

 

[drmoss_ca]

Thanks - I read through that thread a few days ago and the one thing they haven’t discussed is how it prints.

It prints perfectly well, but you might need to use test strips for exposure rather than a meter. My RH Analyser Pro tends to be fooled by the purple base.

Ilford has made a mash-up of my thoughts and photos using XP2 Super in HC-110, L110, Ilfotec Hc here.

 

[Svenedin]

+1 even with standard C41 development my RH Designs Analyser Pro is confused by XP2.

 

[FujiLove]

It prints perfectly well, but you might need to use test strips for exposure rather than a meter. My RH Analyser Pro tends to be fooled by the purple base.

Ilford has made a mash-up of my thoughts and photos using XP2 Super in HC-110, L110, Ilfotec Hc here.

Thanks for confirming. I always split grade print manually anyway, so no extra work required.