APX and Rodinal: The Dynamic Duo

[WRSchmalfuss]

APX + RODINAL

Hi All,

I've been experimenting with APX 100 and Rodinal. This combination seems to work well together as I generally like how APX turns out. However, I'm thinking the recommended Agfa development time is a little too long. The negatives seem overdeveloped and there's significant grain (which isn't a surprise). Although I'm expecting some grain, I believe the grain can be a little less pronounced than the results I'm seeing.

I'm using a 1:50 dilution ratio and developing for 17 minutes at EI 100. Initial agitation is for 30 seconds and 5 seconds every half minute. Can anyone give me their preferred Rodinal dilution and development technique, especially if it involves APX 100. Thanks in advance!

Why don't you download the new RODINAL pdf under: www.mahn.net

Cheers

 

[Rolleijoe]

If you're missing the Agfa papers, try Fotokemika Varycon fiber from Freestyle. Since Agfa went bellyup, it's the next best thing. Beautiful tones, and I'm shooting their Efke 25 and Efke 100 as replacement films. These will give you those really great 1930s Agfa tones, especially when printed on their paper.

For processing I'm using Rodinal 1:50 20min @20gradC. Works every time.

I miss the Agfa papers especially Record Rapid.

I tried to give the Record rapid colour and 'glow' not sure how it will look on your monitors.
I test some films on my blog
http://photo-utopia.blogspot.com/

 

[Fotohuis]

[Don't kill yourself trying to find/shoot APX 400 in 120. It's getting scarce and expensive/QUOTE]

That depends on the area you're located. Rollei Retro 100/400 films in Europe have about the same prices as the Fomapan 100/400 films which are marketet for a very low price in the USA.
But also in the past the APX 100/400 prices in the USA were extremely low compared to Europe.

 

[Gary Holliday]

Correct, all Retro films are made of the same 135 micron film material from the APX 100/400 master rolls and the 120 roll film versions were assembled by Efke, Croatia.

So if this is the case, has anyone reported quality control problems with Rollei Retro 100?

 

[JPD]

So if this is the case, has anyone reported quality control problems with Rollei Retro 100?

This is an old thread, but anyway: Rollei Retro 100 is APX 100. The 120-film uses the same film base as 135-film, and are therefore thicker than standard 120-film.

The 120-films are PACKED in Croatia. Not coated there.

 

[JPD]

Thanks for that
My German is not good but does the text posted mean that 35mm Rollei is the last batch of APX made at Leverkusen? and that 120 rolls are KB emulsions made in Zagreb by EFKE/Adox?

The films were coated by Agfa,and the 120-rolls PACKED in Croatia.

KB = Kleinbild (small format), and not an emulsion.

 

[Mark Antony]

Thanks for that, but when I said KB I meant as in EFKE KB25 etc.
Mark

 

[JPD]

Thanks for that, but when I said KB I meant as in EFKE KB25 etc.
Mark

I guessed that. "KB" is just an abbreviation of "Kleinbild", so Ilfords and Kodaks 135-films are also KB-films.

 

[fschifano]

"KB = Kleinbild (small format)"

Actually "small picture" if you want to translate literally.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Mark,

The glow comes through on the monitor I'm using.

edit: Didn't realise this thread was onto page 4.

Tom.

 

[djkloss]

Hi All,

I've been experimenting with APX 100 and Rodinal. This combination seems to work well together as I generally like how APX turns out. However, I'm thinking the recommended Agfa development time is a little too long. The negatives seem overdeveloped and there's significant grain (which isn't a surprise). Although I'm expecting some grain, I believe the grain can be a little less pronounced than the results I'm seeing.

I'm using a 1:50 dilution ratio and developing for 17 minutes at EI 100. Initial agitation is for 30 seconds and 5 seconds every half minute. Can anyone give me their preferred Rodinal dilution and development technique, especially if it involves APX 100. Thanks in advance!

It depends on the expiration date. The old batch (from 1995 I think) is quite different than the 2010 batch (expiration date). The old batch required more time.

I'm currently using the 2010 batch at EI 80; Rodinal 1:50 for 10 minutes. Works good for me.

 

[Snapshot]

It depends on the expiration date. The old batch (from 1995 I think) is quite different than the 2010 batch (expiration date). The old batch required more time.

I'm currently using the 2010 batch at EI 80; Rodinal 1:50 for 10 minutes. Works good for me.

Yes, it seems 10 minutes is appropriate for this film at the dilution you are using. It has worked well enough for me.

 

[JPD]

"KB = Kleinbild (small format)"

Actually "small picture" if you want to translate literally.

True. "Bild" is also a swedish word.

KB = Kleinbild = Small picture, (Small format).

R = Rollfilm = Roll film.

PL = Planfilm = Flat film (Sheet film).

 

[Mark Antony]

Mark,

The glow comes through on the monitor I'm using.

edit: Didn't realise this thread was onto page 4.

Tom.

Thanks, It's SO hard to make a decent looking result.
Do you know the building? ever been to Philips cameras?
Where in south Norfolk are you, I lived near Poringland for a few years.
I guess you may have come to my Lab (Coes in Mountergate) I worked there (and was a partner) for many years.
Mark