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Just because YOU don't object to blatant thievery and copyright violation does NOT mean everyone should feel and think the same way. This is offensive. "Get over yourself" indeed.
I expect my stuff to be stolen if it's posted on the net. People need to get over themselves.
No such conclusion follows from "my logic".
The question here turns on how many new subscribers can be gained on the newly rejigged site.
The subscription model has *already* failed at apug. Witness the tiny proportion of subscribers vs. members that sean has told us about so many times.
Placing further restrictions on what people can do at apug for free will not drive up subscriptions. It'll just drive down new members.
Plus, of course, it will drive away existing members, and thus decrease the advert revenue that is so badly needed.
Being angry and punitive towards current non-subscribers serves no purpose.
if you want apug to be a special and exclusive club, that's fine. But it'll die with you.
Well tbh your posts on the subject read (to me. I can't speak for others) with a tone of moral disapproval;As though not paying is somehow a moral failure. The same problem infests discussion of healthcare in the USA but that's a discussion for a different platform.I don't consider it angry or punitive to expect someone to pay for what they use.
Even though I intend to remain exclusively AWA ( love it! ), I will benefit greatly from the experience, tips, wisdom and discussion of people who make the same kinds of prints but start with a different kind of negative. The printmaking part is all in common ( and the most satisfying part, IMO ). I'll be among the first to join any AWA subsection.Remember AWA is mine, I think it has a nice ring to it, I see a subsection for this Sean.
Eric hit the nail on the head. I read all kind of ridiculous things and see all kinds of ridiculous watermarks and they are all promulgated by amateurs who read some dumb thing on the internet then do it. If you register your images, then post them small you have little to worry about. I don't think I have posted anything larger that about 700/800 pixels wide in the entire history of the internet. 99.999% of people just want to see your images. Watermarks are annoying to them. If you are lucky enough that more than 10000 people look at your images, then you have other issues and are lucky. Stealing of your 700 pixel images isn't one of your issues....
Could I just remind everyone that all this talk of watermarking and right-clicking is digital territory and thus off-topic for APUG; Post at DPUG for that sort of thing PLEASE!
Right now, as far as I can tell, there are 2 tangible reasons to subscribe. One is the ability to post/ view the Galleries. The other is to be able to sell equipment. I think the latter is of minimum interest to most. Most subscribers rarely, if ever, partake of that option. Altruism aside, the ability to participate in the Galleries is the true "value added" component of a subscription. I think it would be a mistake to open it up to everyone, potentially hurting the financial bottom line. As the saying goes, "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" ( I'm still a proponent of the annual or biannual "free peek/ subscription drive" week for members.) The subscription rate is very reasonable, and Sean should be compensated for the time and effort he puts in to this place.
+1. A paywall is a stupid idea and will cause folks to move on to non-restrictive photo sites.
Just because YOU don't object to blatant thievery and copyright violation does NOT mean everyone should feel and think the same way. This is offensive. "Get over yourself" indeed.
You missed the obvious one ===> supporting APUG. It does not happen for free.
RE subscription dues...
(just a suggestion)
1 month = US$5
1 year = US$25
5 year = US$100
lifetime = US$250
I did mention altruism.You missed the obvious one ===> supporting APUG. It does not happen for free.
Wrong. Everyone here is talking about posting their images HERE at APUG. Hardly off topic.
+1. This is a non-issue.
Re $, isn't the creation of the Photrio platform (ie basically moving APUG to hybrid) itself intended to grow subscribership?
Re $, isn't the creation of the Photrio platform (ie basically moving APUG to hybrid) itself intended to grow subscribership?
My experience has been that it depends on who responds to the posts. I have seen some scanner threads go on for a while, yet for other threads the first person to respond has said it is a forbidden topic which kills the discussion. Just a few more days and such nonsense will be history.The general consensus was one has to learn those skills in some other fora, and then come back here and upload
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