APUG is a really nice group of photographers

[E. von Hoegh]

Just half? You must not watch "Keeping up with the Kardashians", "Jersey Shore" and the other reality shows!

Haven't had TV since '88 or '89.
I hear it's gotten worse since then.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

I don't really want to get into politics but did you all know that a group of baboons is called a "congress"?

How apt, although disparaging. For the baboons, I mean.

 

[Prest_400]

Been here since '09... That's a few years already! Being a young'un it's more noticeable.
The community here is quite homely. There are a few stints of tension and arguing every once in a while in certain topics but much better than many forums.
And as there are many types of photographers shooting different formats and styles there is quite a wide perspective and numerous points of view on photography and film.
Photo Engineer, who grants the forum with invaluable information on the materials and technical ways of photography; A great contributor in the community.

 

[RattyMouse]

I totally agree!

I have come to APUG seeking help many many times and the responses are always great. I consider this site a treasure.

Please subscribe to your treasured site. Help make it better!

 

[paul ron]

hahahaha yeah the "normal" people..
I'll bet many of you old timers are still using DOS too?

hahahaha
got us on a good day Graham... we'll get you next time.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

I'll bet many of you old timers are still using DOS too?

No.

But the difference is... we're smart enough to be able to still do that, if for some obscure reason we really, really wanted to...



Ken

 

[Sirius Glass]

I'll bet many of you old timers are still using DOS too?

I was smart enough to buy a MAC in 1984. I replace the Macs every twelve to fifteen years. So I never had to crap up my mind with DOS.

 

[jerrybro]

I drive old cars, listen to vinyl and shoot film. I get the quality I want from each. When asked why I cling to "obsolete" technology I tell people I refuse to submit to slick marketing and pay more to get less. Simple as that. Are we normal? No, but that's what make us interesting. And I agree absolutely with the OP, APUG is a nice place to hang out.

And for the record, Mercedes diesel's take a long time to wear out, and a VPI record cleaner makes old albums sound amazing on a reasonable system.

 

[mauro35]

I drive old cars, listen to vinyl and shoot film. I get the quality I want from each. When asked why I cling to "obsolete" technology I tell people I refuse to submit to slick marketing and pay more to get less. Simple as that. Are we normal? No, but that's what make us interesting. And I agree absolutely with the OP, APUG is a nice place to hang out.

And for the record, Mercedes diesel's take a long time to wear out, and a VPI record cleaner makes old albums sound amazing on a reasonable system.

I like that! I drive an old car too and have a collection of vinyl records. And of course I shoot film. And I feel somehow "normal" because when I press the gas pedal my analog foot (not coded in 0 and 1) gets an analog response. When I listen to vinyl, my normal analog ears love the analog sound and the best part, when I look at my phots, my normal analog eyes are just so pleased!

 

[TareqPhoto]

Last 2 posts here showing me that you are in 80's or 90's, barely i can say 70's.

I am not even in 40's, so should i look at antique analogue things for my life?

And should i use my first mobile which is not working at today's networks? Even my old telephone that using dial for numbers it won't work.

 

[mauro35]

Last 2 posts here showing me that you are in 80's or 90's, barely i can say 70's.

I am not even in 40's, so should i look at antique analogue things for my life?

And should i use my first mobile which is not working at today's networks? Even my old telephone that using dial for numbers it won't work.

Well, as a matter of fact, I was born in the 80´s and by now I should be using some kind of mobile phone as a camera and post all the crap I got from it on social media, not even knowing what a vinyl is, or maybe even a CD, only mp3 for the best quality...not to mention film, wasn ´t it that stuff they used to take pictures on the moon?
Am I anachronistic?

 

[jstraw]

I drive old cars, listen to vinyl and shoot film. I get the quality I want from each. When asked why I cling to "obsolete" technology I tell people I refuse to submit to slick marketing and pay more to get less. Simple as that. Are we normal? No, but that's what make us interesting. And I agree absolutely with the OP, APUG is a nice place to hang out.

And for the record, Mercedes diesel's take a long time to wear out, and a VPI record cleaner makes old albums sound amazing on a reasonable system.

Heck, I bought my VPI in 1985. *It's* old.

 

[Graham_Martin]

I don't really want to get into politics but did you all know that a group of baboons is called a "congress"?

That's really insulting.................................to the baboons!

 

[Peltigera]

hahahaha yeah the "normal" people..
I'll bet many of you old timers are still using DOS too?

Certainly not using Windows! I use Linux which would be cheap at half the price.

Actually, looking at the statistics from my web site, only a minority of analogue camera users seem to use Windows.

 

[jerrybro]

Tareq, I use what works. A cell phone that is not compatible with any network doesn't work, so can't be used. There is a difference. If when something was made is important to you, that's fine, it's not important to me. As Yamaha used to say, "different stroke for different folk".
Cheers

 

[Sirius Glass]

Last 2 posts here showing me that you are in 80's or 90's, barely i can say 70's.

I am not even in 40's, so should i look at antique analogue things for my life?

And should i use my first mobile which is not working at today's networks? Even my old telephone that using dial for numbers it won't work.

I do not use only old things. I traded in my ex for a newer model with low mileage.

 

[paul ron]

hahaha this is fun..

so my doctor asks me to bend over so she can do a digital..
I ask, what's that Doc?....
she says a finger up your ass....
NO FRIKIN WAY!.. I'd rather you gave me an analog finger to my face!


hahahahahaa

 

[Truzi]

Last 2 posts here showing me that you are in 80's or 90's, barely i can say 70's.
I am not even in 40's, so should i look at antique analogue things for my life?
And should i use my first mobile which is not working at today's networks? Even my old telephone that using dial for numbers it won't work.

Considering the abundance of processed food, perhaps home-cooking seems antique to someone so "young"
Something being new, easier, more convenient, or cheaper to produce does not mean better (or worse). It simply means it is new, easier, more convenient, or cheaper.

...I feel somehow "normal" because when I press the gas pedal my analog foot (not coded in 0 and 1) gets an analog response.

My foot is analog - all the way up or down, not much in between
I've a newer car with computer controlled ignition. When I step on the gas, the car has to think for a bit before accelerating, which I hate. How can anyone consider that acceptable? How is it acceptable that modern cars can "forget" where top-dead-center is (when the crank position sensor dies)? This is something perfected at least as early as the Model T.
I'm leaning toward a '71 Buick Boattail as my next car; more robust, and what does break I can fix myself, cheap.

Certainly not using Windows! I use Linux which would be cheap at half the price.
Actually, looking at the statistics from my web site, only a minority of analogue camera users seem to use Windows.

Debian user here. I work in IT so have to fix windows. When I have to script something in windows, I try to use DOS when possible - sort of like the least common denominator. Like my car comment above, it is more robust. If a machine has a problem running a DOS script, there are serious problems in general; the same isn't always true or obvious if other methods fail.

Hmm... considering all the DOS calls in even the most recent version of windows, wouldn't it be considered antique? (Forget the fact that windows users are thrilled with "new" "ground-breaking" features that they never knew had existed in other OSes at least a decade sooner.)

 

[TareqPhoto]

Anyway, let's not go off topic much, i am happy to be here and one day i will shoot film more than enough then i will share much here, and happy to be here.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Last 2 posts here showing me that you are in 80's or 90's, barely i can say 70's.

I am not even in 40's, so should i look at antique analogue things for my life?

And should i use my first mobile which is not working at today's networks? Even my old telephone that using dial for numbers it won't work.

My newest camera in regular use was made in 1971. I use a watch made the year the Titanic sank, I take pictures with lenses that are older than that. I do not own a cell phone. I have not had television since 1988 or 89. My telephone, which is connected to a copper landline, dates from the late 1960s, it has a rotary dial and a melodious bell.Most of my electronics have vacuum tubes. I use cast iron and steel cookware, no teflon, no aluminium. I grind fresh coffee every morning (the night before if I have stay-over company).
Why?
Because I like simple technology that I can maintain and repair, won't make me ill, yields very high quality results, never breaks down, and doesn't depend any more than neccesary on a "network". I haven't had anything break and need to be replaced in well over 20 years.
I am 52.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

I keep this on the shelf right next to my Internet network bridge and wireless router, just to remind me that everyone who came before Steve Jobs and Bill Gates was not as utterly stupid as the tech marketers of today desperately want us to believe.

And yes, it still works just fine, thank you very much...

:w00t:

(There was a time I could hack out ~5 wpm using the ORIGINAL digital codec, but that was a long time ago.)

Ken

 

[TareqPhoto]

My newest camera in regular use was made in 1971. I use a watch made the year the Titanic sank, I take pictures with lenses that are older than that. I do not own a cell phone. I have not had television since 1988 or 89. My telephone, which is connected to a copper landline, dates from the late 1960s, it has a rotary dial and a melodious bell.Most of my electronics have vacuum tubes. I use cast iron and steel cookware, no teflon, no aluminium. I grind fresh coffee every morning (the night before if I have stay-over company).
Why?
Because I like simple technology that I can maintain and repair, won't make me ill, yields very high quality results, never breaks down, and doesn't depend any more than neccesary on a "network". I haven't had anything break and need to be replaced in well over 20 years.
I am 52.

Ok, let me put it this way, i live in a different country, different culture, different services and laws and government, photography with old gear is not something many or even some doing it here, out old phones with old network services are out of work or as you say out of service and not useful at all to even call the emergency.

I am not against old or analogue, but dying with it and not using new things is not something all people in the world must do, i started film but didn't use it much after digital, i will never say i hate film, i liked the joy of developing and even printing if i do that, but this will not make me to give up all new and nice technology i can use nowadays, if you don't need or care about this new technologies at least others care, but in all generations mostly young people think or have fun different than older people, i am different behaving than my dad who died almost 3 years ago, also no need to compare film with everything old/antique, something are still available and in service and some aren't, in my country i can't get film larger than 35mm and i must order it always online which is also a pain in....., in my case or situations, doing only film will not take me anywhere far, i do it for joy but i will not keep using film only and give up digital.

 

[Tom1956]

You're not missing anything without a TV. What absolute drivel. I keep mine to watch The Fugitive, The Naked City, and Peter Gunn--shows that came on past my bedtime when they were new, hence I had never seen before. Outside of that, network TV is hopeless. Wreaks of partisan slant and depicts a culture that has reached the bottom. You're best without one. You're better off doing your photography.

BTW--here is a link to a station that runs old time radio programs all day. I just now poured a fresh set of darkroom trays, and am getting ready to do darkroom while listening to Amos and Andy. And Kingfish.
http://alltimeoldies.com/streams/theater.asx

 

[MatthewDunn]

You're not missing anything without a TV. What absolute drivel.

Yikers...that goes a little too far for me. I know you go on to mention "network" TV, so maybe this isn't applicable, but Breaking Bad, Homeland, The Wire, Game of Thrones, House of Cards, etc. - all classics in my book. If anything, I think we are in the golden age of television. Hollywood is so risk-averse and knows that "Fast and Furious 17" will make money so they are never going to change their formula. TV, on the other hand, can cost less, is less of a commitment, and with literally 1000's of channels, has more competition. I think the better television channels are reaching out to do the things that Hollywood won't risk and that network TV simply can't (which is why, given your comment about "network tv", we might just be in violent agreement here).

Plus, DVR is maybe the single greatest development in TV. Instead of simply sitting around and flipping from channel to channel looking for something to watch while my show comes on, I simply record it and watch it when I want. My wife and I watch WAY less TV than we ever have because we only watch the things we want without having to wade through the drek.

Seriously, you can sleep these days without wondering what happens to Walt and Jesse in the final episode? I am bouncing off the walls and will be until 6pm PT on Sunday...

 

[Tom1956]

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting on the last episode of The Fugitive, which should be coming up one of these next Sunday nights soon. I want to see if Dr. Kimble finally catches the one-armed man, so he can finally stop running.