Hmm. My longest lens is a 900/10 ApoSaphir. Great heavy monster. Did I mention that it is fat? I solved the timing problem by having SKGrimes make an adapter to hold an industrial (no diaphragm) Compound #5 that I had lying around in front of the lens.Yes. My thought for now was lens cap method. I'll do some reading up again regarding he more common process lenses that get mounted in shutters (24" Apo Artar comes to mind), If I need to start factoring in a shutter search and/or custom mounting I'll likely end up back in Fujinon C land.
I've been through a thread or 2 on the largeformatphotography forum, I've seen that really nice page of data that's linked here and there, but I am still confused. My confusion is mostly regarding the 360mm f9 lens options.
Some of the info seems to say that if the min aperture is 128 then that is one of the W.A Apo lenses. I have now seen pictures of more than one with "W.A. Apo" engraved on the barrel face.
Are all of the W.A Apo lenses engraved? That larger degree of view and larger image circle is enticing, but it triples the price of the lens. I feel like we're either in Fujinon territory where there are many slight variations of some of the lenses both cosmetically and functionally, or Nikon made it clear and I'm making it complicated.
Man. I missed out on process lenses being relatively cheap by a few years I guess. Anything being suspected of 8x10 or larger coverage is hitting close to $500 in longer than 500mm focal lengths. I thought the Apo-Nikkor 610mm was going to be a winner for me until I read that it weighs 3.19 pounds. All of this is just leaning me towards the Fujinon C 600. What's another $2500-3k towards a lens in the grand scheme I guess? Good grief.
I know I started this as an Apo Nikkor thread, but any other clues for something 500-600 or equivalent for 8x10? I think a 19" lens is only approximately 480mm right?
Be interesting to me to see how the cells are mated to the shutter. Looks like the threads that screwed in to the original barrel are un-utilized and out there for all to see. Also the aperture scale is for whatever lens was originally mounted in that shutter so I doubt this was done by SK Grimes.I do see some interesting things here and there.
There are a couple of Docter Apo Germinars in shutter on the 'bay right now too. They are asking small car prices however.
Rodenstock
Trinar 105mm f4.5
Time to bend the thread a bit more. I've been reading up on some of the convertible lenses that have been offered. The Cooke xva is well out of my current budget. There's a complete Wisner set on the auction site right now but that is out of budget too.
I've done a lot of reading on the Gundlach Turner Reich stuff since there's one up for auction right now. If we travel back in time 12 years or so, it would be a $100-200 lens and I would likely scoop it up. In today's strange market though it is listed for $300+. The serial number on front and rear does match which is a plus. The long cell/cells are a 28" configuration. This seems like a budget friendly option to get a somewhat long lens in a shutter. I understand there is no coating.
Should I gamble? There are favorable comments regarding the G.T.R. triple convertibles floating around the various forums. Anecdotally, there seem to be people who landed a "good" sample from the first acquisition and those who have bought/sold many to get a "good" one.
I don't think there's any other under $400 options for a 24-28" lens in a shutter these days And I doubt I could get any barrel offerings mounted up for a total of $400 or less.
Nice collection, but the Trinar is a triplet taking lens from an inexpensive 2x3 (6x9 in metric) camera.
@emeraldcity_grain Did you acquire that whole list in one single sale? That's quite a line up.
There are a couple of $100 process lenses I've been watching. They seem to be in nice shape but are in focal lengths I don't really want/need. Still, a minimal cash outlay will at least let me see if I am willing to mess around with lens with no shutter.
...Note that the shortest Apo Nikkor which exists is the 180/9 - hard to find, but they do sometimes turn up...
The better and more expensive line of Nikon process lenses were the symmetrical 4-element dialyte type. I have a set of those. But they also offered less expensive process lens options, including wider angle for sake of small "stat cameras". Nikkor Q implies a tessar. I've only tested the dialyte category I actually have, which were the predominant lens choice in high-end print shops here on the W Coast, and preferred by certain big photo labs too for enlarging purposes.
In terms of potential camera applications, I mounted some of these on Sinar lensboard to make comparisons with my regular view camera lenses of comparable focal length. Since I own some especially good regular lenses from series like Fujinon A, Schneider G-Claron, Kern Dagor, and Nikkor M. The Nikon dialyte lenses were superior to all of them in terms of sharpness, apochromaticity, and extreme range of near to far usage. The downside is the lack of built-in shutter, smaller image circle than my plasmats (GC, Fuji A, misc general purpsose plasmats) or my Fuji C lenses, and a rather annoying double-lined out of focus rendering (bokeh) if that kind of photography were in mind.
Since I use several of these - the 240/9 and 305/9 quite a bit in the darkroom, it's easy to compare the results there to my regular enlarging lenses, including the excellent Apo Rodagon N's. There too, the Apo Nikkors excel.
Note that the shortest Apo Nikkor which exists is the 180/9 - hard to find, but they do sometimes turn up. Shorter than that, then they made the 105/5.6 Apo El Nikkor, no doubt far over your budget and possibly too heavy for your Beseler lens mount to reliably support. It would be ridiculous overkill for the projects you have in mind, Sureshot. For awhile, Apo El Nikkors were sought out for high end scanning back applications, like repro-worthy copying of paintings. But the preferred equipment has since changed and become more specialized overall.
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