Anyone know about Print film Fuji F-cp 3510?

[Ian Faisal]

could i use it like slide film?

 

[Leigh B]

The fact that it's shown in a bulk roll, in both 35mm and 16mm sizes, suggests it's movie film.

It may not have sprocket holes compatible with 35mm still cameras.

- Leigh

 

[Ian Faisal]

The fact that it's shown in a bulk roll, in both 35mm and 16mm sizes, suggests it's movie film.

It may not have sprocket holes compatible with 35mm still cameras.

- Leigh

yes it does, but there is no spesific iso seting on those film?do you know anything about print release film? i thing its kind a release film

 

[Leigh B]

This is nothing new.

The datasheet available online has a copyright date of 2003.
http://www.fujifilmusa.com/shared/bin/fcp3510_brochure.pdf

- Leigh

 

[Ian Faisal]

I wonder, could i use it for my still camera? it can be develop with e6 chemical?

 

[AgX]

It may not have sprocket holes compatible with 35mm still cameras.

-) BH perforations typicall work fine with still cameras

-) KS perforations are the same as with still film

BH is used for cine camera films, KS for cine print films

 

[Ian Faisal]

-) BH perforations typicall work fine with still cameras

-) KS perforations are the same as with still film

BH is used for cine camera films, KS for cine print films

wow you know a lot about motion film
now i use eterna vivid 250d fo my project... i found those kind of film..the label said positive film but there is no iso specification on data sheet...
im afraid to buy it if i cant use it for still photography...my friend sell it for $10 for 2000feet film

 

[AgX]

"positive film" most likely will be print film. And that would be the same as any still 35mm film.

As long as it is perforated 35mm I see hardly a risk in buying it anyway, concerning perforations.

BUT it likey will be a negative film, though without orange color mask.
By copying your C-41 negatives onto it you will yield a positive, you could use as slide.
However cine print film will need a different process as C-42, and its contrast is not matched to print from C-41.
We got some threads on such mismatch, though mostly on using Cine camera film negatives with RA-4 paper.

 

[Leigh B]

"positive film" most likely will be print film. And that would be the same as any still 35mm film.

From the slick sheet it appears to be balanced for a very specific incandescent light source, of 2854 degrees K.

That is very red. It might require significant filtration to achieve reasonable color balance in daylight.

- Leigh

 

[AgX]

A print film is NOT intended as camera film anyway.
Its spectral sensitivity is adapted to the dyes of a negative film. As is its contrast. And its speed as copying film.

 

[Ian Faisal]

A print film is NOT intended as camera film anyway.
Its spectral sensitivity is adapted to the dyes of a negative film.

So print film is not use for film camera right...it have sound recording emulsion side from data sheet i read.
thank you guys...ill not buy those kind of stock film

 

[AgX]

But for 10$/2000feet it should be fun to experiment with it.

 

[Ian Faisal]

But for 10$/2000feet it should be fun to experiment with it.

yeah...in my country Indonesia... developing chemical just only c41 and e6
hey i read data sheet more closely in description it say "It is used to produce color release prints from original camera film or color intermediate film. The emulsion layers are color-balanced for making prints from color mask incorporated color negative film or color intermediate film"

it can use to shot from camera directly or just duplicating image from negative?its make me confused

 

[MattKing]

When they shoot movies using film, they shoot on to a type of negative film that is designed to be subsequently printed on to another type of negative film, yielding many final, positive projection prints. The projection print film you have found is the latter type of movie film.

Both types of movie film are lower in contrast than the negative films we usually use in still cameras. Their colour characteristics are matched to each other.

The negative film we usually use in still cameras has colour characteristics matched to the colour characteristics of printing paper instead.

 

[Ian Faisal]

Thanks Matt
so print film can not be used for still camera,right?

 

[MattKing]

Thanks Matt
so print film can not be used for still camera,right?

Not if you expect the same high quality results with accurate colour and pleasing contrast.
You may also have a lot of difficulty finding a development regime that will work with it. I know a little about the Kodak options (EC-P process) for this sort of film, but nothing about the Fuji options for this sort of film.
One other thing that might be of concern is that theses distribution print materials were not designed with long life in mind. They were expected to be used to project films several times and then discarded.
If I did my own development of colour print films (C-41), and could afford to waste some chemicals, I might like to play with it.

 

[Ian Faisal]

on the film sheet it say ecp-2b process, hmm i think can make it if i could find the right chemical
if i shoot this film what iso setting would be?the film data sheet isnt explain the iso film

 

[georgegrosu]

Positive color films is made to make color prints after negative or internegative color.
Positive films (whether color or black and white) are made with a small fog and a
contrast factor about 4-5 times higher than the contrast of negative films.
Color positive films is used for print machines (contact or optical) being balanced for incandescent light (~ 3000 ° K).
Color positive films, whether Kodak, Fuji, Agfa, Azocolor (occurred in Romania) is developed in the ECP 2. http://motion.kodak.com/KodakGCG/uploadedfiles/motion/h2409a%281%29.pdf
By year 1997 I made an invention - process reversible color of the positive color films.
http://www.osim.ro/publicatii/brevete/bopi_2005/bopi0805.pdf (page 115 - 116) LINK
I made many contacts copy tests have with color positive films Kodak 5386 and outside (photo).
I try to be as short as possible.
Let me give you some information about the photo tests:
- Outside sun (32,000 lx);
- Exposure / diaphragm 1/60 1.8 + 3 (three) filters Wratten 85;
- Fogging with strictly red filter - 1/30 at 210 lx without the photo objective at Opemus light;
- Praktica camera L - Pentacon 50mm 1.8 lens.
I make the reversible color processing in a process similar to E 6.
My processing have: a black and white developer, stop, second exposure, color developer....
After processing the film a color positive image directly resulting.
Color reversible process made by me, besides the fact that they get direct positive image, we have reduced
the contrast of the color positive film.
The contrast images obtained is lower than that obtained if it were make in the recommended process
ECP 2 (obtain a color negative image).
I have to search through CD s to find some scans images to see.

George

 

[georgegrosu]

I found only scans with the color tests of color contact print.
They are presented in comparison with the original image obtained copy in the reversible color process.
The images are scanned in ~ 1998.

George

 

[pdeeh]

wow for $10/2000' you can hardly go wrong (if you have $10 to spare) - lots of fun trying it in as many different processes as you can think of.

And if all else fails you could always roll it in 36-shot cassettes and sell them to Lomo-lovers for $10 a go and make some pocket money

 

[Ian Faisal]

means can be used directly onto camera and develop process using ecp-2, kinda intersting

 

[georgegrosu]

Ian, I wrote to you an email.

George

 

[Ian Faisal]

Ian, I wrote to you an email.

George

George, this my personal email ianfaisal10@gmail.com

thank a lot

 

[georgegrosu]

Ian, I wrote in INBOX / Conversation.

George

 

[georgegrosu]

Conversation
Ian, I do not know English well.
I understand technical things for film processing.
To be efficient trying to tell me in simple words:
1. What film you want to use.
2. What do you make with film and if you have developed films.
3. Or do you process it in a laboratory?
4. If you have photo substances?

I looked quickly over RED Processing 2010 in which you sent me.
- I do not understand why you want to change a process that is safe and that you have many indications(ECN 2)?
- Does it seem to you that the process better?
- At the ECN 2 developer saw a change which seems strange to me.
The recipe RED Processing 2010 in the developer ECN 2 appears hydroxylamine sulfate? And missing Antifoggant KODAK AF-2000.
I know hydroxylamine sulfate that is used to process color ORWO (negative, positive and reversible).
Lack of substance KODAK AF-2000 Antifoggant I think that can be a problem.
I'll talk after I get answers.

George