Anyone getting the new titanium M-A?
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You need to shop around. Ok, keep this between you and me - reddotcamera has them in stock RIGHT NOW - new. Full Leica warranty. If you buy from them you will save over $1000 than buying (if you can get them) from a shop in the USA.
You are welcome. Remember don't tell anyone. Hush hush.
Okay Huss, I won't tell anyone about the reddotcamera having a few MA cameras in stock. And a few MP cameras as well. Wouldn't want anyone to snap them up before I get around to earning $5000 in order to buy one.
I can walk into 3 shops today, right now, in London and buy an MA: Apertureuk, ClassicCamera and Reddotcameras. Classic and Reddot have MPs as well. Every once in a while they'll be out of stock but give it 2-3 months and they'll have a few more. At the end of the day these are slow sellers, they will never have more than 1 or 2 in the shop.
Look, B&H do not have them in stock which means they do not exist.
Forget saving over $1000 by buying them from an overseas reputable Leica dealer.
Okay Huss, I won't tell anyone about the reddotcamera having a few MA cameras in stock. And a few MP cameras as well. Wouldn't want anyone to snap them up before I get around to earning $5000 in order to buy one.
You don't need $5K. "Only" $4k-ish....
Thanks for the tip. Red dot camera wasn't on my radar. Presumably the warranty on these cameras is honored by Wetzlar and not by Leica USA?
All Leica warranties are international which means Leica USA will honor it. Unlike my crappy Nikons where if you bought them outside the USA, Nikon USA will not touch them.
Huss mentioned Dentists and Plumbers.
Dentists undergo a much more rigorous and thorough training than plumbers.
They do a six months drilling and filling course, then three years accountancy.
Titanium shutters have also been mentioned here.
In the seventies I read in a UK photo magazine about a new camera having the first commercial titanium shutter, I think it was a Nikon SLR. Quite a fuss was made about it at the time, but at the end of the article the author could not help them self and had to put in a dig about the pollution made to the environment in the production of titanium.
I have never heard mention of this since. Has it been brushed under the carpet, or are production techniques safer these days?
Dentists undergo a much more rigorous and thorough training than plumbers.
They do a six months drilling and filling course, then three years accountancy.
Titanium shutters have also been mentioned here.
In the seventies I read in a UK photo magazine about a new camera having the first commercial titanium shutter, I think it was a Nikon SLR. Quite a fuss was made about it at the time, but at the end of the article the author could not help them self and had to put in a dig about the pollution made to the environment in the production of titanium.
I have never heard mention of this since. Has it been brushed under the carpet, or are production techniques safer these days?
No I didn't. But I'm sure someone did!
Sorry Huss it was Benjiboy
I must be getting oldtimers disease.
I must be getting oldtimers disease.
Per Nikon's website: https://imaging.nikon.com/history/chronicle/history-f/
The Nikon F went on the market in 1959 and was the first camera to have a titanium foil shutter.
I'd be curious too to know what the perceived environmental problems were with mining titanium, especially compared to the extraction of other metals.
David
Processing titanium is nasty. But in the late 1950s, the Soviets and Americans were beginning to explore titanium for aircraft exteriors (think of the SR-71), jet engine fan blades, and submarine hulls (the Soviets). By the 1960s, titanium hip pins were available (my grandmother had one after a car accident). A few thousand shutters made of titanium were a trivial volume of the metal compared to military and aerospace use.
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I think Starkie (sp?) Leica repair in England offers titanium curtains taken from Nikon Fs, modified to fit Leica Ms.
I've had them in my M2 for a few years now and they... work.
It's a nice touch that they include a roll of film.
I've had to buy the first roll separately for all the other cameras I've bought new.
I've had to buy the first roll separately for all the other cameras I've bought new.
I certainly cannot afford a 20k leica, though I do own 5. I have another collecting problem, it is called a watch. A run of the mill Rolex is 20k easy now and lets not get into real high dollar, exclusive watches (Patek Philippe, etc). I think those that can sport a Rolex, wouldn't blink and eye at Leica prices new as this gets into luxury accessory pieces, even if using it as intended to be. Me, I am relegated to older Leicas that I bought before the crazy price increase and my Seiko divers....one day I may trade some stuff in for a Rolex or a new Leica....one day...maybe. What gets me though are the crazy digi Leica prices....those things will NOT increase in price, just decrease. Like an old quartz watch. Who the heck wants those? The desirables are the mechanical movements. And they are serviceable.
Unfortunately, I share that affliction. I'm not particularly into Rolexes, but I do like some other brands that have appreciated immensely over the last few years. Other than special edition sets like the M-A Titan, Leicas can seem cheap in comparison. It's killed the hobby for a lot of people.
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There is one quartz watch that may be appreciating: the Omega Marine Chronometer from 1974-1979. It was staggeringly expensive in the mid-'70s. They did not sell many. As a student, I certainly could not afford one.
Luckily, I am a happy seiko aficionado but those can go WAAAAY up in price as well. Currently lusting after a Pogue. That gold dial and retro 70's look is appealing. Plus, well, it's a space watch
Maybe I should sell one of my Barnacks to scrape together some coin.There are certainly some outlier quartz watches and this is certainly one.
A lot of similarities between collecting/using old mechanical (and new) cameras and with mechanical watches. I have also somewhat dove off into the fountain pen arena as well but feel I am more contrained there with purchases. If only I could have one collection/hobby.......hmmmmmm
Back on topic, yes, I would like to own and would shoot the Titanium MA. But I don't think that is going to happen in my lifetime. My M5 keeps me very happy when loaded with a roll of film.
So I was reading this pretty snarky article about the new special edition titanium Leica M-A and there was a reference to a Hipstamatic app so I looked it up and here's the link. Actually, there is a full suite of Hipstmatic apps. Who needs a film camera when there is an app that will give you that special Lomography look for the one time charge of $2.99 instead of $20-$30 a roll.
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So I was reading this pretty snarky article about the new special edition titanium Leica M-A and there was a reference to a Hipstamatic app so I looked it up and here's the link. Actually, there is a full suite of Hipstmatic apps. Who needs a film camera when there is an app that will give you that special Lomography look for the one time charge of $2.99 instead of $20-$30 a roll.
snarky = mad that they can’t afford one.
Maybe. Maybe Not. There are any number of things I can afford that I would never buy because I think they are a ridiculous expenditures. I am sure I could get pretty snarky about them too, especially if someone were paying me to write a snarky article about them.
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