Anyone else a little self-conscious about shooting film?

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i'm always self conscious when photographing with a camera ..
no matter the camera.
i don't really care if people think i am a hipster or a geek ..
they usually have an interest in cameras, and
ask questions like " do they still sell film ? "
if i can i let them look at the groundglass .. :smile:
 

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I just try as hard as I can to be invisible, unobtrusive and not very interesting. I'm busy, I'm a dinosaur, whatever, I just don't want to shoot a group of people in which 10 percent are looking right at me. I wear deliberately uninteresting clothing, I cut my own hair, and I wear shoes that I bought in a thrift shop. Not one thing is high contrast or bright in color. I can go anywhere. I have a bland, uninteresting face, and I deliberately groom to keep it that way. I'm a ninja. The invisible man. The man in black.

No, seriously, people do ask about the MF camera sometimes, I just explain that I really like film still, and that there are still many professionals and amateurs for whom digital has not yet provided a viable alternative, and that all of this equipment was good enough for Nat Geo and Cosmopolitan just a few years ago, so it's not like it's inferior equipment.
 

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the look of fear in other photographers' eyes (usually g/gwc's) is classic when I have my RB with a 180, prism, grip and flash in my hand.

A few years ago I photographed a wedding for a friend with my RB67. As we were leaving the registry office, the next wedding party was coming in. The digi-photographer with them gave my RB67 a "what on earth is that?" look.


Steve.
 

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A few years ago I photographed a wedding for a friend with my RB67. As we were leaving the registry office, the next wedding part were coming in. The digi-photographer with them gave my RB67 a "what on earth is that?" look.


Steve.

I sometimes use my Linhof ST IV 4x5 handheld, with the anatomic grip on the right and a Metz 45CT1 or Olympus T32 with grip on the left. Yes, I get stares and questions...:laugh:
 
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A few years ago I photographed a wedding for a friend with my RB67. As we were leaving the registry office, the next wedding party was coming in. The digi-photographer with them gave my RB67 a "what on earth is that?" look.


Steve.

You should have told him your Koni-Omega was in the shop.
 

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Stop worrying and take more photos.

I'm only 20 and have no qualms carting around my 4X5 and throwing a dark cloth over my head.

Drag some cute artsy girls along with you if you are worried.
 

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When I was 20 I had no qualms either. I think the qualms started at about 45.
 

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... or maybe that is because I shaved my beard when I turned 45... IDK for sure.
 

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^ Aren't qualms vegetarian burgers?
 

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For me even though film seems to have had or is having something of a comeback, it never really left. But I don't get looks so much now for what camera I'm using, although I have a vintage lens on my digital camera so it wouldn't surprise me if someone seemed curious about it.

I did sports for marketing for a local team and since women sports photographers don't seem to be all that common, I got a lot of stares and questions. I felt self conscious at first, being at ice level in an arena full of people looking down at me. I just got used to it in time and it could be pretty entertaining. Like when they'd look at me, look at the sign, then back at me like 'what the...?' Or ask me where such 'n such was (what was I, the information booth? LOL) Or when mascots would flail around in front of me wanting their picture taken, or when fans would notice my camera aiming their direction and start waving at me, especially the ones who have made maybe one trip too many to the beer booth. When people gawked at me I'd usually give it a minute and they'd get bored and go back to watching the game as I'm not as interesting as a hockey game.

Maybe it just takes some experience to get good at figuring out how to deal with people noticing you and your camera. You maybe can develop some strategies as to how to respond or react when various situations occur; I usually just try to give someone a brief answer that would hopefully make sense to someone who's not a photographer. Or sometimes just a nod or a hello is enough.
 
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Stop worrying and take more photos.

I'm only 20 and have no qualms carting around my 4X5 and throwing a dark cloth over my head.

Drag some cute artsy girls along with you if you are worried.

Maybe a big-ass camera is a good way to attract girls when you are a young-un! I am, these days, more pitiful than attractive so I stay hidden under the dark cloth. Seriously though, I have found a little change in the way people react to film cameras.
Went through the "time to move on" and "you can still get film?" stages, but now quite often get "cool camera" and sometimes even "respect" which is nice.
Also great to see a lot of young people getting into analogue...don't much care if they are hipsters or not.
To the OP, just wear that camera with pride and don't fret about what others think.
 

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I've been thinking about this for a while and I think this has nothing to do with photography or camera - but has everything to do with age.

OP is in his early 20s.

In this age, things matter. Being accepted by others matter. Being thought well by others matter. Although legally an adult, one is somewhat unsure of his/her role in the world. No matter how hard one tries, he/she just doesn't have enough life experiences to know if he/she is in the ball-park. Always a thought creeps in.... am I doing this right?

Come 40s and 50s, one had been through many situations including good, bad, embarrassing, etc, etc, etc. May had a serious illness or even death in close relatives and friends, and begin to realize what's really important. All the sudden, everything else seem insignificant. By this stage, typically, one knows what he wants and makes decisions.

I'll let you know what 60s and 70s are like when I get there. :tongue:
 
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I feel the exact opposite, when I have the digi-setup bare, without the handgrip, big flash bracket and flash that I use for events, its just an ordinary crop sensor camera, that people with the big ol full frame cameras and L lenses turn their noses up to lol. I dont really have any digi autofocus lenses at all, maybe 3-4 tops and none that are exceptional or very fast.

I feel much more at ease with film and my light meter, I get better shots with less exposures needed, and do not have to fiddle with autofocus.
 

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I am, these days, more pitiful than attractive so I stay hidden under the dark cloth.

Well, perhaps... but I was shocked at how pitiful I looked when I saw a photo of me, taken by someone else of course, while under the dark cloth. I thought I looked pretty good...and I did with my own eyes and imagination. :laugh:
 

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Film? Absolutely and proudly!

I make pictures only out of light-sensitive materials instead of some other method. For at least a century and a half the process was called photography to distinguish it from all the other ways of making pictures. I reckon that is still true in spite of the clamouring pretentions of digi-pix technology.
 

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When I go out to shoot photos I sometimes feel a little self-conscious about people seeing me out with a 35mm SLR, 35mm rangefinder, or my medium format setup and thinking that I am one of those "hipsters" doing it for the "cool factor".

BUT FILM IS COOL!!!!!! Some folks are just finding that out! Serriously, dont sweat it, there are many of us at the analog table, the least we need to do is judge each other. Pat your fellow analog brethren on the back and keep going w/o a care of what anyone thinks of you and your motive for liking analog photography. Life is too short to care about anyone thinking you are X, Y or Z because your interest in analog photography
 

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I have to admit I feel at least a little self conscious regardless of what camera (film or digital) I'm shooting. That's why I'm probably more comfortable shooting things other than people (animals, interesting things, etc.) I was a little gutsy (for me) the other day...I was out with my Yashica and one of my neighbors was in her yard painting. I asked and took a picture of her painting..I feel funny doing it but I got a decent image.
 

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I think that some people may equate someone like you in their 20s using a film camera as a hipster when in reality you're serious in your choice of using film. Just keep on doing what you're doing without hesitation or reservation. As people have stated earlier in this and other threads, you can really educate people who are genuinely curious when they ask you about using film. A couple of weeks ago I was walking to work and I made my usual stop at a grocery store which is on the way and the young man at the checkout counter was fascinated by the tlr I was carrying with me. Tlrs do that, I get more comments when I'm carrying one, most of them complimentary.
 

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Every now and then tilt the the camera forward and look intently at the back or to really mess with onlookers put the camera up to your ear and talk into the lens.

Self consciousness has little to do with age. Approach situations with confidence and people generally assume you know your stuff. Enjoy film it is a wonderful thing.
 

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What makes me wonder sometimes is people want to see the back of my camera after I take a picture. I show it to them and carry on with out saying anything. Self conscience.... NOT a chance. Proud... EXTREMELY. And when they ask "What are you taking picture of ?" Maybe my blank stare as I try to remember what I took in the last 36 frame roll gets them moving along. And being a large fellow they really don't push it if I decide not to answer them. But if people are REALLY interested I will take the time to let them know how exciting film photography can be. Even @ 55 I am still thrilled with the process.
:laugh: :laugh: :D
 
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Non whatsoever! I just think with all I have learned since 1964, I possibly know a little more than the guy (or gal) who bought a digi SLR,a few years ago and think they are the bee knees! But in fact they could not tell the difference between a focal length and a bottle of beer!

I know it is a minor matter, but a little knowledge is not all that good and if they get a problem and I get a similar problem, I will probably be able to get around it. I have seen some good images from digital, very good images in fact, but also some truly terrible ones as well. The former from photographers who developed their skills with film and the latter who went straight into digital. Only very rarely the other way around.
 
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Failure and Embarrassment

When I go out to shoot photos I sometimes feel a little self-conscious about people seeing me out with a 35mm SLR, 35mm rangefinder, or my medium format setup and thinking that I am one of those "hipsters" doing it for the "cool factor". I think this has come from me (unfortunately) meeting people like this who are just into film because they think it will give their photos a "vintage" look. It just so happens that these people consistently put out horrible photographs trying to achieve that "look" of dirty, old, scratched up, washed out photos full of artifacts and imperfections.

Rather than film or digital, and possible accusations of hipsterism, you are probably feeling more self conscious about doing what it really takes to make great photographs, and that is risking failure and embarrassment.

Failure: even the best photographers miss the target more often than not. Look at any photographer's contact sheets and see how often they "fail forward" in searching for just the right angle or expression. That moving and searching is often very physical, with a lot of crouching or knee-bending. Especially with medium format, you can start to look like a hunchbacked weirdo!

Embarrassment: you have to put yourself out there, and be willing to walk up to a complete stranger and say "can I make a photograph of you?" I've done this quite a lot, and I would say that 95% of people answer "yes." They are flattered. You've played to their ego. They want to know why you would select them out of a crowd. But the risk is that they will say no, and think you are a freak.

On some of my projects I used to give a long winded explanation. Now, I say simply "I'm working on a book of Rodeo photographs." Talk about an in! I'm going to make your photograph and it might be in a book. Yes! Let's do it! People really respond to that.

Last week, I was crawling around in a neighbor's yard, photographing a cluster of mushrooms that had popped up overnight. It was ungodly hot, I was dripping with sweat, and cars kept rolling by at 5 miles an hour to see what was up. Every time, I would just turn and wave and give them a big old smile. :D It seems weird, but it lets people know that you are having a great time, doing exactly what you want to be doing, and that you are not afraid to be seen doing it (as you would if you were a perv or something).

And I can't tell you how many times people have seen my Bronica and said "oh, you're a REAL photographer!"

So, take the risks. When you get the reward of great photographs, everything else will seem far less important.
 

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Depends on the situation and camera.
When i carry my Dianas i know people will think i'm hipster, and i get the same feeling about my Olympus OM's.
When i bring my Mamiya RB setup i think people think i'm either really pretentious or very engaged in this matter.

.. i don't care tho.
 
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Wow, I'm really glad to see there were so many people who replied to this thread. I just had a chance to check on this thread again and was pretty surprised to see 5 pages :smile:

I think the thing that really irks me is that I am normally not a very self-conscious person. I'm pretty social, have no problem speaking in public (I actually teach an intro to digital and analog photography class locally on weekends), etc. That is what bothers me the most about feeling a little self conscious about toting around my medium format camera (or one of my 35mm bodies for that manner).

And despite not being self-conscious for years regarding analog photography, I don't really know where this came from all of a sudden. I mean I have done street photography, stopped people and asked for photographs, etc and just recently I've fallen into this trap.

I think it comes from wanting people to know how passionate I am about photography. It's something that I genuinely love doing and for some reason it bothers me seeing people using something I love so much as a fashion accessory (hipsters). On one hand I'm happy to know there are more people out there now shooting film but on the other hand I feel like a lot of people are just using it to perpetuate a certain image of themselves. With that said, I don't think I'm better than anyone else so I hope this reply doesn't give off that vibe :D

Also, I'm happy to know that there is a very wide spread of ages on this forum. For some reason I did not think there were very many people on here in the 50+ age group and I think it's really cool to hear their perspective on things so thanks for responding :smile:
 
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