Anyone can do this?

[blansky]

But most people miss the bigger problem that ever fewer people are needed to produce the same number of desired widgets in an economic calculus counting on an ever increasing population buying ever cheaper goods. Whole nations. The equation still plays out even in the presence of "new things". Buggy whips are a red herring.

s-a

But I think his point is also that they were personalizing it. We all know change comes. We all saw what globalization did.

We all saw what the industrial revolution did, but that was a historical thing.

Intellectually we get it. But now we get to see it first hand, and to some it's actually personal.

I talked to a kid the other day who said he was going to go into journalism. I thought, are you nuts.

 

[Jeff Searust]

He's just taking dirty pictures...

 

[blansky]

He's just taking dirty pictures...

Love your signature lines.

 

[moose10101]

He's not but lots just like him are.

Yes, which was my point. He has at least some sense of his limitations.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

He clearly states he's in it just for the fun. Maybe over time he'll develop a portfolio and become more serious.

Maybe he'll become the next Ken Rockwell.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Consider also, his little advertisement (probably free in that market?) just went viral on one of the world's premier photography sites.

As of 1:00pm PST (GMT-8) he already has 31 replies on 245 views. These numbers will no doubt rise dramatically over the next few hours as outraged discussion continues. As well, APUG threads are directly visible outside of APUG. So the entire Internet now has access to his little advertisement.

There is no bad publicity. Especially at the low end. It's all just a numbers game. The more eyeballs you can find, the more money you can make. Thanks to us, this guy may have just hit the jackpot.

:eek:

Ken

 

[cliveh]

He clearly states he's in it just for the fun. Maybe over time he'll develop a portfolio and become more serious.

Maybe he'll become the next Ken Rockwell.

Or the next Peter Lik.

 

[Steve Smith]

This guy might do a better job than a professional

He's doing it for money. That makes him professional.

In what way is he different to anyone else offering photographic services?


Steve.

 

[Steve Smith]

The thing is, none of us here know how good (or bad) he is and we don't get to choose who can and can't offer their services on a professional basis.


Steve.

 

[removed account4]

Some folks want to make some money doing something they enjoy. My hat goes off to the individual for trying. By placing an ad on Craigslist, that's a good start. Photography is not just for a privileged few. Anybody, with any background can do it. No special qualifications required. I'm not offended on any level by what is said in an ad. As long as free speech prevails and no harm is done, this person could make the most outrageous claims. Why should anybody care?

couldn't agree more !

people who hire him don't have high expectations, and neither does he..
he's having a good time and seeing we live in a bottom feeder economy ...
he's getting paid to have a good time.
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[Sirius Glass]

That is the gwc problem that has arisen from the digital revolution. You can beat it so just wait until people are angry that the wedding and other important venues were lost do to gwcs. Then they will come back to the real photographers.

 

[railwayman3]

Then the market will decide if there is a place for these people.

Some people will spend £30 for their lunch in a fine restaurant, others will pay £0.99 for some deep fried McBurger. There is a market for both.


Steve.

Exactly....but in choosing to eat in either place, I (should) know what to expect....the McBurger will be cheap and cheerful and fill me up, but I expect the lunch in a fine restaurant to be well cooked and presented, by experienced staff, to be savoured and enjoyed.

To continue your analogy, I can buy cookbooks and videos, exotic ingredients and kitchen equipment, and watch expert chefs demonstrating on TV, which should equip me to cook elaborate recipes from all of the world, with foods which my parents would never have recognised. But it doesn't turn me into a chef at the Ritz.

I think my point is that it will be a very long time before machines and computers can replace all human creativity ?

 

[Steve Smith]

To continue your analogy, I can buy cookbooks and videos, exotic ingredients and kitchen equipment, and watch expert chefs demonstrating on TV, which should equip me to cook elaborate recipes from all of the world, with foods which my parents would never have recognised. But it doesn't turn me into a chef at the Ritz.

Indeed. But it doesn't preclude you from advertising yourself as a chef should you choose to.


Steve.

 

[MattKing]

Skilled labour isn't cheap.
Cheap labour isn't skilled.

In Canada, one of the challenges faced by the legal profession is that many of the larger business law firms are outsourcing a lot of the business document generation work that used to be "bread and butter" work to lawyers in India.

Clients come in one day, instructions are prepared and forwarded to India, the work is done over night (due to the time difference) at a very favourable rate by well trained lawyers with excellent legal skills, the work product is returned electronically and reviewed by the local lawyer who delivers it to the client, along with a bill that includes a generous profit for the local lawyer.

Cheap, skilled labour.

 

[MattKing]

A couple of years ago, I saw an ad on Craigslist I particularly liked.

The seller was promoting a mid-level, used DSLR.

His spiel? "Buy this camera, and you can save a fortune by photographing your daughter's wedding yourself."

 

[Mainecoonmaniac]

He doing pics of naked women. It just for his enjoyment

 

[frank]

In Canada, one of the challenges faced by the legal profession is that many of the larger business law firms are outsourcing a lot of the business document generation work that used to be "bread and butter" work to lawyers in India.

Clients come in one day, instructions are prepared and forwarded to India, the work is done over night (due to the time difference) at a very favourable rate by well trained lawyers with excellent legal skills, the work product is returned electronically and reviewed by the local lawyer who delivers it to the client, along with a bill that includes a generous profit for the local lawyer.

Cheap, skilled labour.

Let's add the word "domestic" at the beginning of each line.

 

[MattKing]

Now that's what I call a racket. My real estate instructor used to say: "What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?--a good start".

Interesting - my mentor when I was training as an articling lawyer warned me that more lawyers got into trouble because of dealing with realtors than all other reasons combined.

It isn't really a racket, because the quality of the work is excellent, the total price to the client is competitive and the risk is all born by the supervising lawyer. But it is incredibly disruptive to the industry.

 

[ambaker]

At least he's not doing weddings.

He did say he wanted to keep it enjoyable. :snicker:


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[removed account4]

He doing pics of naked women. It just for his enjoyment

naaah

that is these guys

http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/tlg/5049800347.html
http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/crg/5016809456.html

 

[Sirius Glass]

In Canada, one of the challenges faced by the legal profession is that many of the larger business law firms are outsourcing a lot of the business document generation work that used to be "bread and butter" work to lawyers in India.

Clients come in one day, instructions are prepared and forwarded to India, the work is done over night (due to the time difference) at a very favourable rate by well trained lawyers with excellent legal skills, the work product is returned electronically and reviewed by the local lawyer who delivers it to the client, along with a bill that includes a generous profit for the local lawyer.

Cheap, skilled labour.

So in the future will the Canadian trials also be out sourced to India?

 

[summicron1]

does video and still but doesn't do weddings and always wants it to be fun?

Sounds like he wants to shoot porn.

 

[erikg]

does video and still but doesn't do weddings and always wants it to be fun?

Sounds like he wants to shoot porn.

I was thinking bands, shooting porn would be too stressful for me!

 

[ic-racer]

From the ad: "Why pay ridiculous high rates for pictures or videos that almost anyone can produce now with modern technology?" Anyone with a cellphone does not need even his services.

 

[ohnewton35]

This is someone who clearly is in it for the money and the experience unfortunately that's what it's come to and with campaigns like that of the "this was taken with the iPhone 6" things will only continue to be this way. Cameras on smartphones are getting better in themselves which one day I'm sure may altogether replace dslrs with the exception of the professional market. I'm certain at some point in yee old tavern a bunch of portrait painter were sitting around talking in this same way about photographers.


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