Any Single Weight Paper still produced?

dancqu · Nov 7, 2005

If Kodak will make a special run to produce the SW
Azo why not a special run for some projection
speed paper? Dan

abeku · Nov 7, 2005

Just curious, Denis: How much does a 18x24/100 K888 cost directly from them?

Denis P. · Nov 7, 2005

abeku said:
Just curious, Denis: How much does a 18x24/100 K888 cost directly from them?

I presume you mean 18x24 in cm

Well, the latest price is about 166 HRK for a box of 100, which is about 23 EUR or $27, if I'm not mistaken. Add to that the cost of postage (about 5 EUR for courier delivery for packages up to 5 kg).

It's bound to go up... As I said, their suppliers (paper base, etc.) are raising their prices, and they have no other choice but to raise theirs.

I had another talk today regarding the concerns expressed above about the rumour about Fotokemika/Efke factory closing down. It's nothing else but a rumour.

They can't guarante what will happen in another year or so - it's not as if they control the market... In short, as long as there's demand for their products, they will make them and stay in business.

BTW, an interesting piece of info: they told me that the largest B&W markets are India and Africa!!! And the competition (Chinese, i.e. "Lucky" brand) is killing them there, since they have ridiculously low prices (with the appropriate low quality...).

So, buy Efke films (and Emaks papers), and keep them in business!

Otherwise our only other option will be "Lucky", a brand I don't know much about, but from that I hear, it's nowhere near Efke....

Regards,

Denis

dancqu · Nov 7, 2005

dancqu said:
If Kodak will make a special run to produce the SW
Azo why not a special run for some projection
speed paper? Dan

OK. So forget I mentioned Kodak. How about that
outfit down the street that makes Azo? Maybe they
could coat the same paper with an enlarging
speed emulsion. Dan

dfeuer · Nov 9, 2005

Flotsam said:
I'm in the same boat with about a half of a 100 sheet box left. Hope it doesn't go bad while i'm waiting for a worthy project for it.

Make sure you seal it in 2 or 3 ziplock or similar bags and refrigerate it. And that you let it warm up overnight before opening the bags. Paper is slow enough that you don't have to worry about cosmic rays and such.

mr.datsun · Apr 10, 2016

Some 10 years after the last post to this thread, I would like to repeat the question for 2016. Is anyone making a single-weight FB paper today?

If not, what is the lightest weight FB paper there is, please?

removed account4 · Apr 10, 2016

slavich ?
they were the last ones as far as i know.

mr.datsun · Apr 10, 2016

jnanian. I just happened to look at their site, too.

Is this it?
Unibrom 160 BP
http://newslavich.com/content/black-and-white-photographic-paper-general-purpose.html
Not sure of that page is current or not but if so, seems to come in matt glossy single or double weight.
Anyone sell this in the UK, or Europe?

EDIT. wrote to Silverprint, although I could not find any on their site.

removed account4 · Apr 10, 2016

hi mr datsun
i have never bought their paper !
( i coat myown and have azo in storage )
BUT

according to the b+h website:

Unibrom 160 BP Black & White Paper from Slavich is a single-weight photographic paper manufactured on baryta base designed to obtain photographic prints by contact and projection printing.

good luck !
john

munz6869 · Apr 10, 2016

Slavich is available from B&H! I've been using the single weight paper since last year!!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1102083-REG/slavich_sla499705_8_x_10_unibrom.html

Marc!

Arklatexian · Apr 10, 2016

Alex Hawley said:
I feel the same Ryan. I was just getting in to using single weight Kodak Polymax Fine Art fiber when it was discontinued last year. At that time I did a search of the internet suppliers in the USA and came with nothing. Would sure like hear if there is some available now.

I'm not sure why single weight got a bad rap so that it didn't sell. Maybe it was mostly do to Ansel Adams saying he preferred double weight, so single weight became magically "inferior". Maybe St Ansel was a little klutzy.

I guess all of our problems in photography can and will be blamed on Ansel from now on. When I worked in a camera store 50 years ago, almost all the single weight glossy paper we sold went to our local newspaper darkrooms who used it so the papers could make plates from which they printed news pictures, etc. What we did not sell to them, we sold to studios for them to use making prints of wedding pictures to deliver to the newspapers. As has already been mentioned, in the home darkroom, sw prints were hell to work with after they dried and "rolled" up. If you want a villian in this case, look to all those wonderful "D-----L" cameras that photo journalists are now using.......Regards!

chip j · Apr 11, 2016

You can get Slavich single-wt. on Amazon!!

Loren Sattler · Apr 12, 2016

Just curious here, what is the purpose of using single weight paper?

mr.datsun · Apr 12, 2016

jnanian. On their website, Silverprint do not stock the Unibrom 160 BP.
marc. I saw on B&H. It will make it very expensive in the UK with import duty.
chip j. Amazon do not sell photo paper. in the UK.

Loren. I can't speak for others, but I like the more down-to-earth artlessness of single-weight. Plus it buckles.

EDIT. I've tried writing to Silverprint's sales email instead of the one they use on the Slavich site. I may write to Slavich, too. Thanks for all the suggestions.

munz6869 · Apr 12, 2016

Loren - I used single weight paper to make a hand-printed book. It worked really nicely for that purpose - you really couldn't (easily) use a thicker weight of paper.

Marc!

removed account4 · Apr 12, 2016

mr datsun
im glad you are getting closer to finding it !
i was going to suggest you go right to the slavich website
if you couldn't get it through the usual suspects

hi loren

less washing time ( thinner paper=less of a sponge to leech chems out of )
easier to contact print paper negatives ( thinner paper = less paper for light to pass through/shorter exposures )
as marc says less thick for stitching books. i've made hand stitched books with both single weight paper
and regular weight.

john

mr.datsun · Apr 12, 2016

waiting for replies...

mnemosyne · Apr 13, 2016

mr.datsun said:
waiting for replies...

Contact Geola in Vilnius, Lithuania, they are the official Euro distributor for Slavich products
I assume if anyone outside of Slavich proper knows if the paper is still produced/available, it will be them
info@geola.com

mr.datsun · Apr 14, 2016

mnemosyne said:
Contact Geola in Vilnius, Lithuania, they are the official Euro distributor for Slavich products
I assume if anyone outside of Slavich proper knows if the paper is still produced/available, it will be them
info@geola.com

Thank-you. I did look on their site and they do not stock single-weight. But I have written now and will wait to hear.

Michael Guzzi · Apr 14, 2016

I have bought Slavich paper from Geola, they will sell you anything that is on the price list, you can even order your own custom size rolls (maximum width is 1 meter though). Just be aware that in my case, from payment to actual shipping, it took nearly 3 months. Shipping was surprisingly affordable, and came with tracking as well.

mr.datsun · Apr 15, 2016

Michael, Mnemosyne. Thank-you.

I have heard back and the minimum order is 500 Euro, which puts it outside my scope at the moment. Perhaps in future I will be able to.

Michael Guzzi · Apr 15, 2016

Wow, they must have changed that minimum order, as I ordered 60 Euros worth of paper back in Dec., no problem.

I looked at their pricelist and indeed the tables have been changed, they were separated in two (Bromportrait and Unibrom), stating the single weight/double weight price for each pack, also IIRC for custom rolls it was 12 EUR per square meter for the single weight. Also there was a broader range of sizes available. I bought 4X6 5X7 and 8X10, those were on the pricelist back then, I see the smallest size now is 18x24 cm.

That's a pity, if the paper proved good I would put an order for some custom rolls... but 500EUR is beyond my budget for paper...

mr.datsun · Apr 16, 2016

Michael Guzzi said:
Wow, they must have changed that minimum order, as I ordered 60 Euros worth of paper back in Dec., no problem.

I looked at their pricelist and indeed the tables have been changed, they were separated in two (Bromportrait and Unibrom), stating the single weight/double weight price for each pack, also IIRC for custom rolls it was 12 EUR per square meter for the single weight. Also there was a broader range of sizes available. I bought 4X6 5X7 and 8X10, those were on the pricelist back then, I see the smallest size now is 18x24 cm.

That's a pity, if the paper proved good I would put an order for some custom rolls... but 500EUR is beyond my budget for paper...

Yes, and you'd have to be sure to be able to use it within 2 years, I guess.

I was a bit shocked. I wondered whether they have to make it to order?

At the moment it would make more sense to order from the States. Adorama.

mnemosyne · Oct 9, 2016

To anyone who is still interested in a single weight fiber base paper, I found out that German company Wephota (or more correctly Banse und Grohmann GmbH, a finisher and reseller of photographic film and paper) still offers such a paper in their 2016 price list in various sizes up to 50x60 cm (20x24 inch) and also in rolls, available in three grades (soft, normal, hard). Paper base is white, finish is glossy. You will find prices on page 3 of their pdf price list (in German). I have no personal experience with the paper and no idea who is the manufacturer (Slavich would be my educated guess), best to ask Wephota directly. They don't have an online shop, but orders can be made formless via Email.

mr.datsun · Nov 1, 2016

mnemosyne said:
To anyone who is still interested in a single weight fiber base paper, I found out that German company Wephota (or more correctly Banse und Grohmann GmbH, a finisher and reseller of photographic film and paper) still offers such a paper in their 2016 price list in various sizes up to 50x60 cm (20x24 inch) and also in rolls, available in three grades (soft, normal, hard). Paper base is white, finish is glossy. You will find prices on page 3 of their pdf price list (in German). I have no personal experience with the paper and no idea who is the manufacturer (Slavich would be my educated guess), best to ask Wephota directly. They don't have an online shop, but orders can be made formless via Email.

thank-you. I will look into it.

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