Any fixed grad paper for lith and warm faded looks

baachitraka · Mar 19, 2019

Yes, there are some good vari grad papers that do lith but I am curious about fixed grad that gives also warm faded black looks...

trendland · Mar 19, 2019

Fixed grade papers in general is out of date....!
If you are asking "multigrade" is in all darkrooms! I remember a situation short after multigrade was introduced! Some asked : "Do you use multigrade - I am not sure if it is indeed better?"
This was 1980!!!!!

with regards

PS : Hart to say if there is paper for "lith" avaible with fix grade - may be not!
Special if you want to have "warm tone" that could be a Mission impossible in 2019
I remember price explosion of Ilford special Deluxe fix grade after cheap offerings a years before!
That was the time fix - grade papers became a niche paper and that was in 2007!

trendland · Mar 19, 2019

baachitraka said:
Yes, there are some good vari grad papers that do lith but I am curious about fixed grad that gives also warm faded black looks...

Ähm sorry you just need normal fixed grade with warm tones - yes?
(I never made lith - but now I understand)!

Yes beside Iford I mentioned there was a real big bunch of "Rollei Classic" warm tone and I remember a fix grade out of that series! It is discontinued but perhaps you Google about!
There was foma with a fix grade but cold (bluisch) toned!
Agfa is discontinued (like all papers from Agfa).....hm - is there a Ilford in warmtone remaining ?

this here isn't warmtone ! So your Mission imposible should be indeed completed!

with regards

mooseontheloose · Mar 19, 2019

I don’t know what you mean by faded blacks, but Fujifilm, until last year, offered two kinds of Fujibro RC paper - fixed and vc. The fixed grades lithed, the VC did not. I got warm sandy tones with this paper with hot lith (20C will take forever). You might be able to find some online, but as it was only for the Japanese market, that might be difficult.

Rudeofus · Mar 19, 2019

mooseontheloose said:
but Fujifilm, until last year, offered two kinds of Fujibro RC paper - fixed and vc. The fixed grades lithed, the VC did not. I got warm sandy tones with this paper with hot lith (20C will take forever). You might be able to find some online, but as it was only for the Japanese market, that might be difficult.

This posting sums up the current state of lith printing: a lot of very nice lithable papers, which are now generally unavailable or not available where you live, or which were very obscure even when they were available, or papers where a previous version lithed well but the current version doesn't. I got the Rudman book, and not a single paper described in there is available any more or lithes in its current and easily available version.

@baachitraka : have you tried contacting Moersch? He seems to be the grand master of lith printing in Germany, at least in terms of available products.

koraks · Mar 19, 2019

Why does it need to be fixed grade? The one highly acclaimed lith paper that is currently available, Fomatone MG, seems to do what you want - but it's VC (which is nice if you want to do some general printing, for which it is excellent as well).

Dali · Mar 19, 2019

Yes, your question is weird as lith contrast is not given by the paper... Why bother?

Any fixed grad paper for lith and warm faded looks

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