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I'm thinking of buying one just for the sophisticated meter. What is the overall experience with this camera apart of the meter?
 

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I had one, a long with a few prime lens, for about a year, I liked it. Only reason I passed it along was that I did not want to invest in another system as I building out my Minolta A mount system. Felt good in my hands, has lot nice features, and the FD mount primes I had were as good as any MF lens I used, Minolta, Nikon, Pentax, Konica and Miranda.
 

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It's a good camera, bigger than it looks. I would go with an original F1, or even an AE-1 Program. Both meter well (the AE-1 P has an AE-Lock), as well as a few different types of metering, if my memory is right.

The FD glass is second to none, but I always preferred the Nikon cameras. There MAY be adapters now that would allow you to use non Canon cameras with FD and FL glass.
 

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Funny thing about lenses… I’ve had glass from Nikon, Pentax, Minolta, Leica, Voigtlander, Olympus, Canon… and they’ve all been great. Not once have I thought “if only I had..”
 

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+1 for the light meter. Mine lives in my large format kit/backpack when I'm not running a roll through it. Its the best light meter for zone system metering imo. You spot meter something, then use the H/S buttons to place that tone wherever you want with respect to middle grey. Then you can scan around the scene and see where everything else falls on the scale with that exposure. The only downside is that it caps out at f/32 and 30 seconds, but it's never been an issue for me to shift a stop or two in my head.
 
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Thanks all. I didn't know the meter is THAT sophisticated! I need spot and AE lock, something the A1 I'm using doesn't have. F1 is not my cup o tea.
 

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The T90 meter really is very nice; there are only one or two other cameras from that period that feature something similar to it. I think there was a Minolta (?) with a similar system. What I refer to is the T90's ability to take sequential spot measurements and store & display these on the exposure scale. I use this all the time as it makes it super easy to measure, say, an important shadow, a mid-tone and a highlight. The camera then displays all three (up to 9 in fact) measurements on the exposure scale, and you can shift the exposure up and down and see that way what over/underexposure each measurement will fall. For me, this is the main (and virtually only) reason I use anything FD, as in other respects I prefer the more modern EOS line, but none of my EOS bodies has anything that works as beautifully as the T90's spot measurement system. It's a personal thing, but I'm really a huge fan of it.

Oh yeah, it's also nice it runs on plain AA batteries. I bought some NiMH rechargeables about two years ago, charged them and then happily left them in the camera for a year, shooting a roll with it now and then. Ultimately I decided to top them off because I couldn't imagine they hadn't discharged even by half, but for an old and noisy camera like this, it really is relatively energy-efficient.
 
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Thanks koraks. I often see people say noisy, however all my previous Nikon film cameras (F90, MD12 drive,...) were noisy. Is T90 very different in this regard?
 

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I'm sorry, I have virtually no experience to speak of with Nikon film-based cameras!
The only thing I can compare with is the very old consumer/'pro-sumer' EOS cameras like the EOS1000, which is similarly noisy to the T90 and probably shares some of its internals (esp. the advance winder).

Once you get used to it, it's not much of an issue, although if you find yourself in a quiet place and you take a photo..well, there's no stealth, let me put it that way. People will notice.
 
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No problem, any experience counts. For quiet moments (literally and figuratively) I use my Oly XA.
 

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I don't think that the T90 any nosier than a F3, F2, F with motor drive. What does make a difference that unlike the F1, or Nikon Fs you cant take the motor drive off. In terms of metering, maybe a Om3 or 4.
 

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My only other powerwinder cameras are a Canon T50, which is much louder than the T90, but in a charming way in my opinion. And I have a Fuji TW-3 half frame which is quieter, but it has a leaf shutter and no mirror either so not really comparable.
 

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Yes, big T90 fan here. Great metering -- the ability to fine tune the exposure by the number of times you "read" the luminance of a selected part of the scene. And the Data Memory Back 90 will store exposure information for over 150 exposures, which can be read off the LCD screen. It's really a wonderful camera.
 

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What can be so great about a meter?
How can a f5.6@1/60th scene be more f5.6@1/60th than it really is?
 

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Have 2 of them but they have a nasty habit of wearing out the internal battery. Shopped around and finally found some that were identical but I took them in to a camera repair person who tried but failed. Might look into a reputable repair person to try again as they are very comfortable to operate
 

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What can be so great about a meter?

What can be so great about a camera?
About a developer?
About a particular type of film?
Paper?
A car?
A house?
A smartphone?
etc. etc. etc.

Different strokes. Yes, I get it - we can all work with a center-weighted meter just fine. I can also get across the country in a car without A/C and yet I prefer to have one with.
 

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What can be so great about a camera?
About a developer?
About a particular type of film?
Paper?
A car?
A house?
A smartphone?
etc. etc. etc.

Different strokes. Yes, I get it - we can all work with a center-weighted meter just fine. I can also get across the country in a car without A/C and yet I prefer to have one with.

Maybe you understood the wrong way. I understand we all
Have our reasons and preferences and those are not debatable.

It’s just that I don’t understand how can a meter from a camera be deemed so much better versus another camera if they both come up with the same reading.
 

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It’s just that I don’t understand how can a meter from a camera be deemed so much better versus another camera if they both come up with the same reading.
Alright, gotcha; I'll try to explain a bit better.

For me, the odds of coming up with the correct metering (i.e., the one I intend) and doing so quickly is the greatest with the T90's multi spot meter, followed by a regular spot meter, and then the more common partial and averaging meters. It's a matter of convenience combined with accuracy. With a regular spot meter, I get the same result, but it takes me a little more time. With a partial (quasi-spot) or center-weighted meter, there's a larger chance of error due to the larger coverage and the somewhat non-linear response to in particular extreme highlights. In some scenes this doesn't matter, but all too often I prefer a true spot meter. And then it so happens that the T90's automation in collecting several meter readings and displaying them conveniently together makes it really easy to 'navigate' a scene. For me, at least. It's subjective, of course.

Does this help?
 

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I'm mainly a Nikon guy, but do have a few FD glass (my first camera was AE-1). Even though I don't use T90's advanced meter capabilities, I found it very ergonomic to hold, the viewfinder is nice and bright with relevant info, and very fast to shoot in Aperture Priority mode. It is not that noisy actually. Overall a good value for not much money these days.
 

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Have 2 of them but they have a nasty habit of wearing out the internal battery. Shopped around and finally found some that were identical but I took them in to a camera repair person who tried but failed. Might look into a reputable repair person to try again as they are very comfortable to operate

Try cameraclinicusa.com , they've done several of my Canons, including two T90s and an EOS 1.
 

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Try cameraclinicusa.com , they've done several of my Canons, including two T90s and an EOS 1.

Thanks but I am in a different country (Canada) and any shipping would be worth more than the camera as I loose 30% of my dollar when I or anything I own cross the 49th parallel. 😄
 
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