Ansco "All Weather" film advice?

[snikulin]

I got an exposed roll of Ansco "All Weather" 120 film out of a recently purchased Yashica C circa 1957-1958.

The roll has black paper backing, not the usual silver one (see the pictures below).

The spool is metal and somewhat rusty (the camera itself is rust-free but clearly not used in possibly decades).

I am planning to use my HP5+ procedure for this film:

1. HC-110 dilution H for 11 minutes at 68F
2. Ilford stop bath for ~10 sec
3. Kodak KODAFIX 1:3 for 10 min.
4. Wash 1 min
5. Berg bath 1 min
6. Wash 5 min
7. LFN Wetting Agent 1 min

Am I correct?
Thank you!

 

[Jim Noel]

You may not be far off, but I would develop it by inspection to assure I developed it long enough.

 

[Dr Croubie]

It was exposed when you bought it, or you shot it recently?

I've had very good results with film-older-than-me-but-shot-recently using Caffenol-C-L 1 Hr stand, but haven't (yet) tried it with latent images shot 40 years ago.

 

[snikulin]

It was exposed when you bought it, or you shot it recently?

It came exposed inside the camera.
By the looks of the spool and the backing paper I think it could be sixties or even earlier.
Almost certainly the camera has been opened quite a few times since then.
As I understand, such an old film requires anti-fogging developer like HC-110 (and that's the only stuff I have at the moment ).

 

[snikulin]

I would develop it by inspection to assure I developed it long enough.

I don't have safe light.
I think the film is so old it could be completely fogged by now.

 

[bestbefore1978]

with newly exposed but old film HC-110 is good to keep the fog down - my go to for ancient film is 8 mins in Dilution B at 18C


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[snikulin]

with newly exposed but old film HC-110 is good to keep the fog down - my go to for ancient film is 8 mins in Dilution B at 18C


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What's about old exposed old films?
What's safer: to over- or to under- develop?

Thanks!

 

[snikulin]

Note to myself:
HC-110, Dilution H, 20 min @ 68F.
Despite very bad fogging I got fairly recognizable frames with this recipe.

 

[Dr Croubie]

As I understand, such an old film requires anti-fogging developer like HC-110 (and that's the only stuff I have at the moment ).

Yeah, that's what the KBr (Potassium Bromide) is for in the Caffenol-C-L recipe. I've put in 1.5g/L for rolls from 1978 and gotten good results, you'd possibly have to double that for 1950s film and maybe stand it for longer.
HC110 does have a bit of anti-fogging restrainer but I've also heard of people (although never tried) adding more KBr to their HC110 for a bit more restrainer.

Fog may lower contrast a bit, but at least you've got definable frames so with VC paper you can always try printing through it.

 

[snikulin]

That's what I get.
Any car experts? What the earliest year it could be?

Thanks!

 

[Truzi]

Just a guess, but the car in the background seems to be no earlier than the mid 1970s/early 1980s - though I could be wrong. I'm guessing based on fender lip, roof line, and the triangular rear window (done because smaller "large" cars meant shorter rear doors that curved over the wheel-well, so they had to split the windows so they could roll all the way down (though some windows only went part-way, and claimed it was a child safety feature, lol) - it could be earlier, but this became common in the 1980s).

There is a lot more to go on with the car in the foreground, but I'm not as well versed with imports. It's bumpers appear pre-74 (unless the condition of the film merely makes it look that way); U.S. mandates enacted in 1974 resulted in heftier bumpers on new cars, which would apply to imports as well, but the car is older than the one in the background.

I wonder if the vehicles have all-weather tires

 

[Wallendo]

The car in front resembles a Fiat 850 Sport from the late 60's, early 70's

 

[Hal Reiser]

The front car appears to be a early 70's Japanese import. I'm Not sure of the make but I would guess it's a Datsun. The rear car is definitely a Chrysler product. It's either a Plymouth Volare or the Dodge version whose name escapes me.

 

[Kirks518]

1977 Dodge Aspen, and possibly a very early (1970) Mitsubishi Galant. The import is definitely not a Datsun, Toyota, Opel, Austin Marina, or Subaru.