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I then switched to a custom lab which does a great job developing the film and their printing of color is superb. However, their prints, even at 4x6 or 5x7 were very soft. I noticed it immediately. They and I couldn't agree - they claimed I was used to "digital sharpening" by the minilabs (this lab does optical printing). >>>
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I don't know if digital or optical printing is better, but it seems the operator is the most important element.

If you can't see the grain on the print, the lens is out of focus; seriously, telling someone that they're "used to digital sharpening", without even contemplating the possibility that the lens may have lost focus is poor customer service.

Get yourself in with a lab who has an operator/operators who understand printing, and you can't go wrong. They'll be able to adjust printing to your negs, know when something is suddenly "off" (and reprint accordingly) and keep the lab running well. A lab that has operators who have no idea (or just plain don't care), won't give you the results your looking for, rather excuses without taking the time to consider you may be right in your observations.

I ran a semi-pro lab for almost 15 years - lenses can (and do) drop focus over time. If they're doing their checks correctly (every morning & monthly), they'd see right away that the focus is out, if not (or the operator is blind!!) no way they're going to admit and correct. I used to test each type of film monthly, with the supplied "Kodak Shirley" negs, that showed colour drift and focus capabilities.

Only once during that time did I need to have a lens re-calibrated, it had "drifted", slightly soft. Called the Kodak technician and he was there the following morning, sending another spare lens to tide us over in the meantime, which arrived within the hour.

It's not rocket science, but sometimes, people find it all too hard and just let it slide: "Near enough is good enough." Not words that were used in my lab, the team took pride in what they were doing and always strived to get the best out of the negs they received, regardless of it being pros or amateurs who dropped off their film. In our eyes, everyone was a professional - every shot was priceless to the customer, we just helped make it into a reality. :smile:
 
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I am impressed, takes a lot of work, the minilabs I have used, Fuji, analog and Frontier used 220, the Frontier 3 phase, I don't remember the drain set up, and buying paper in rolls is expensive. Can you still get parts? Do you have a film developer as well. How many prints to you make in a month?

I own a pro lab in sydney australia. In terms of my equipment I can dip and dunk E-6, C-41 and B&W film up to 16x20" sheet sizes and can Hand Print Ilfochrome up to 30inch, Black and White RC and Fiber 72 inches x 230 inches and Ra-4 to 72inch x 230inches.

My Noritsu 2301 can print up to 12x18inches. Parts are easy to find from stripped down machines around the world.

I develop a around 2 thousand rolls of film a month and print about 40,000- 50,000 prints a month.

I keep quiet and busy.
 

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Yikes

24 thousand rolls a year, 500,000 prints a year, thats some pretty big coin I am impressed.


I own a pro lab in sydney australia. In terms of my equipment I can dip and dunk E-6, C-41 and B&W film up to 16x20" sheet sizes and can Hand Print Ilfochrome up to 30inch, Black and White RC and Fiber 72 inches x 230 inches and Ra-4 to 72inch x 230inches.

My Noritsu 2301 can print up to 12x18inches. Parts are easy to find from stripped down machines around the world.

I develop a around 2 thousand rolls of film a month and print about 40,000- 50,000 prints a month.

I keep quiet and busy.
 

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wait, ilforchrome prints, direct optical prints from slides? that still exists? what's the lab?
 

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I own a pro lab in sydney australia. In terms of my equipment I can dip and dunk E-6, C-41 and B&W film up to 16x20" sheet sizes and can Hand Print Ilfochrome up to 30inch, Black and White RC and Fiber 72 inches x 230 inches and Ra-4 to 72inch x 230inches.

My Noritsu 2301 can print up to 12x18inches. Parts are easy to find from stripped down machines around the world.

I develop a around 2 thousand rolls of film a month and print about 40,000- 50,000 prints a month.

I keep quiet and busy.

From your first post I though you had a mini lab set in your garage or basement. You still have old stock Ilfochrome?
 
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Stephen Frizza
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From your first post I though you had a mini lab set in your garage or basement. You still have old stock Ilfochrome?

Yes I am sitting on a small reserve of Ilfochrome stock and have access to more if need be. I was once able to print using 50inch Ilfochrome rolls however since 2011 I have only been able to print on 30inch rolls.
 

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Stephen

sent two replys by Pm function, not sure if you got them, email is better for me.



Bob
 

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Is Ilfochrome identical to the former (permanent colour) Cibachrome ?

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Henning Serger

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hi, so it's been 8 years since this discussion was happening.
i take it now there for sure are no analog minilab prints being done anywhere?

No, fortunately there are some optical mini labs still operating or operating again.
For example ars-imago
http://www.ars-imago.com/
http://www.ars-imago.com/index.php?language=en
http://www.ars-imago.ch/

is offering optical colour prints to their customers.
As well as Blue Moon Camera
http://bluemooncamera.com/

As Stephen Frizza already has said, the machines and spare parts can be bought from specialised refurbishing and maintenance companies (e.g. like Dead Link Removed
or
http://www.mini-lab.pl/about_us.html ).

Best regards,
Henning
 
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