Alt Print Exchange Round 2 May 2006

[MenacingTourist]

I'd like to join again. This is great motivation to complete goals and I'm learning a ton!

 

[CarlRadford]

And I thought this was Kerik joining us

I am sure he just forgot to say...

Package on its way Kerik!

Which Fabriano is it? If it's Uno, it's likely to be quite alkaline and needs to be acid treated to work well. (At least that's true for pt/pd printing.)

 

[CarlRadford]

Groups being organised by Don...

thanks for that - I don't have all the inside info as to who qualifies as an expert!

 

[colrehogan]

I would like to do this again too. I hope to be getting my round 1 prints done between now and the end of this year.

 

[CarlRadford]

19 Already

Do people never learn - or are they always learning...

 

[Aggie]

Which Fabriano is it? If it's Uno, it's likely to be quite alkaline and needs to be acid treated to work well. (At least that's true for pt/pd printing.)

Its the hot press stuff that Frabriano discontinued a few years back. I know it worked very well orginally for my vandykes. What I'm using now is the stuff from Bostick and Sullivan that Mateo uses. So I have no idea about the acid content. It comes in 22x29 inch sheets.

 

[Nige]

what's the entry requirements? Are people willing to accept a 4x5 cyanotype in exchange for their masterpieces?

 

[Jim Moore]

Count me it too

Thanks,
Jim

 

[photomc]

what's the entry requirements? Are people willing to accept a 4x5 cyanotype in exchange for their masterpieces?

AFAIK they are fine Nige...would love to see some of your work in alt. process. Can not speak for anyone else, but find the 4x5 - 5x7 size perfect for this, last one I sent out was 5x7 ziatype, the next may be plt or pld toned VDB in either 4x5 or 5x7.

Aggie, I have some of the Fabriano Artistico that I picked up (it was labeled as Fabriano Uno but the watermark shows artistico, sigh) and had very little luck with it with VDB....then talked with Jeremy and he said it probably needed an acid bath. So will treat some and give it another try.

 

[Nige]

AFAIK they are fine Nige...would love to see some of your work in alt. process. Can not speak for anyone else, but find the 4x5 - 5x7 size perfect for this, last one I sent out was 5x7 ziatype, the next may be plt or pld toned VDB in either 4x5 or 5x7.

Ok, I'm in!

 

[CarlRadford]

So far we have

To date:

Carl Radford
John Brewer
Art
Ole
Joe Lipka
Mike C
David A. Goldfarb
Christian Nze
Don Bryant
Randy
Jim Gali
Aggie
Jeremy Moore
Mark
Matt Miller
Gerhard
Steve Allen
Menacing Tourist
Diane
Jim Moore
Nige
Peter Schrager

 

[Peter Schrager]

IN

I'm in also please-BUT-I have recieved ZIP from my last group. Anyone listening?
Peter

 

[CarlRadford]

Round 1

Peter, I have recieved 3 prints but was in two groups! We did Say into mid-Decemeber so we've a while to go and people are talking about when they will have prints out in the round one thread. I hope we get a 100% exchanges but appreciate there may be reasons why people are late - especially at this time of year - in hindsight one to avoid in the future maybe. The only sanction for any that do not exchange is to preclude them from participation in the future but I am not sure what the APUG guidelines are - one of the moderators might be able to answer that - but as I've said there is time yet and I believe we are a good lot

All the best, Carl

I'm in also please-BUT-I have recieved ZIP from my last group. Anyone listening?
Peter

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

The APUG guidelines are pretty silent on the issue of non-exchangers. It's up to the organizers to pay attention and to weed out the repeat offenders.

Personally, I don't keep track of who didn't send me a print. I send mine out (not always on schedule, but eventually they do make it out), and I seem to get a good number back, but I don't take it personally or get too bent out of shape if someone doesn't reciprocate. Such is life.

 

[nze]

Hello Peter

I ship your print today with the 2 others for Ole and John. I also receive the John's gum print ,and you may receive your soon.

I'm in also please-BUT-I have recieved ZIP from my last group. Anyone listening?
Peter

 

[Ole]

I'm in also please-BUT-I have recieved ZIP from my last group. Anyone listening?
Peter

Peter - you're in my group, and I have sendt zip. I hope to get them printed this weekend, and to manage to get them shippped before I go offshore again.

We finally had a clear sky here, but I discovered that the 30 minutes of sunshine we got was not enough to expose even one single print. Back to the backup solution... May is a much better time of year. Even February is better - there's nothing worse than trying to print by sunlight in Norway in December!

 

[gr82bart]

I do suggest that we try to distribute the expert printers more evenly, for example I didn't unsderstand why Gerhard Bock and Joe Lipka were lumped into the same group.

Hi Don,

Sorry about that. I was the one that suggested the groups, since I think there was a request for suggestions. At the time, there was no feedback on the groups.

I did it based solely on who wanted to print twice - lumped those guys into the same group, then spaced them out over the next four groups and placed everyone else one into groups in the order they appeared in the original thread. I wouldn't know who was an expert. The only thing I know is that I am not!

I think it would help Carl out if people declared themselves experts or novices - via PM or by posting here.

Regards, Art.

 

[gr82bart]

I hope we get a 100% exchanges but appreciate there may be reasons why people are late - especially at this time of year - in hindsight one to avoid in the future maybe.

Hi Carl,

Welcome to the club of exchange organizers! Jeremy, Nige and I can fill you in on this. In another thread I have stated that there is about a 5% non-committment rate. That is, people who completely do not honour their committment, despite e-mails, PMs and other subtle and not so subtle reminders from the organizers. Basically, these are the folks that have no valid excuse, particularly since a few of them are regular posters on APUG.

The only sanction for any that do not exchange is to preclude them from participation in the future but I am not sure what the APUG guidelines are - one of the moderators might be able to answer that - but as I've said there is time yet and I believe we are a good lot

Not only that, but between the exchange organizers, we have a list of those people who have not honoured their committments in any exchange. The idea is that if they don't honour their committment in one exchange, they cannot particpate in ANY exchange. No one on that list has signed for this exchange.

Actually, someone suggested that if the exchange deadbeats signed up, we should group them together, that way they'd get nothing from each other! I thought that was funny in my own morbid way.

Regards, Art.

 

[CarlRadford]

Having been printing plt/pld since about Sept 2005...

I can certify myself as a novice - one that is trying to improve though

 

[Ole]

Never done Pd/Pt, never done kallitype, on my first bottles of (home brew) cyanotype and van Dyke, second pack of POP paper, done two Polaroid emulsion lifts (both very successful, to my surprise) - very novice!

 

[matt miller]

I'm a novice too.

 

[CarlRadford]

So far then - (Novice Intermediate Expert)

To date:

N - Novice I - Intermediate E - Expert

Carl Radford - N
John Brewer - N
Art - N
Ole - N
Joe Lipka - E
Mike C - N
David A. Goldfarb - N
Christian Nze - E
Don Bryant
Randy - N
Jim Gali
Aggie - I
Jeremy Moore - N
Mark
Matt Miller - N
Gerhard - E (sometimes )
Steve Allen - I
Menacing Tourist
Diane
Jim Moore - N
Nige
Peter Schrager
Phil Dresser - N

 

[Aggie]

Since I did quite a bit of Van Dyke a few years back, I would classify myself in the OLD POOP catagory. Since that is not an option, and I figured out what my recent problems were, I will squarely put myself in the intermediate. I've also done quite a few cyanotypes.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

I'm definitely a novice in albumen.

 

[photomc]

Gee, what's before novice...guess that will have to be it for me.