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David A. Goldfarb said:
Come by and take a look some time, Bob. Didn't we figure out that your office is two blocks from mine?

Yup. You could head east while I head west and we would bump into each other in front of the Butler library!

We shall do coffee soon!

-Bob
 
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David,
Thank you for the examples from your workshop! It just reaffirms my love for this process. I'll be looking for a workshop for sure now!
Thanks again.
Rick
 

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Going back to Kerik's question about the grain in the scans, I looked more closely at the "Grant's Tomb" neg and the print with a 6x loupe, and I'm fairly sure that what's coming up in the scan is mainly print grain, surface texture, and scanner artifacts, more than film grain.

I'm generally kind of fascinated with the interesting little details that show up in 8x10" negs that weren't noticed at the time of exposure, and in the grassy area I found what looks like someone holding up a child who is pointing north toward the George Washington Bridge (outside the frame) in that little patch of sun over there on the left side toward the middle of the frame. Attached is a smaller version of the print scan for reference, with an inverted neg scan at 1000 ppi of about a 5x4mm detail (about a quarter of a Minox frame) from the 8x10" neg. Again, this is a 1/2 sec. exposure, 8-1/4" Gold Dot Dagor at f:32, TMX in D-76 (1+1) developed for albumen.
 

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David, sometimes what we interpret as print grain is really one of two possible other effects, or a combination of both.

The first is the formation of tiny fog centers which appear as very tiny dark dots that look like grain.

The other is the inclusion of the light sensitive material around 'centers' of paper fibers which then form clumps that look like grain but are really aggregations of light sensitive centers in groups associated with the fibres.

In the final analysis, of course, you may call both of these effects grain for all practical purposes.

The latter effect can sometimes be eliminated by using baryta paper, but the former can sometimes get worse with some baryta papers.

You will also find that sharpness will generally improve on a baryta paper.

I feel that I can comment reasonably well, as I saw some Albumen prints on FB single weight paper this week and was able to compare them with some prints on Bergger COT 320 and Strathmore, as well as the FB and an RC paper.

While looking at the prints our group was having a lively discussion on the two topics above.

PE
 

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Thanks, Ron. That's interesting to know. I'm not too disturbed by the effect, since I'm not normally examining these prints with a loupe or scanning them and enlarging them, except for purposes like this illustration, but since Kerik asked, I wanted to take a closer look. If you look at the prints normally with the unaided eye, they appear very smooth.
 

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Just a curiosity--

Here's a photo of Daniel Levin popping bubbles on a freshly albumenized sheet of paper using the corner of a strip of paper as I look on and Dave Wooten is deep in thought.

http://www.cfaahp.org/content/view/4/13/

That bright quartz light is speeding the drying process.
 

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laz said:
David! I admired this landscape when you first posted it but this print knocks my socks off!

The tonality of oval and triangle formed by the ground are what I call "good enough to eat!" I can only imagine how good it must look like "in person."

Kudos!

-Bob

Yep! An albumen print of this will hang in my new darkroom...

thanks so much Dave

Dave in Vegas
 
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