AI created images vs. Photoshop fabrications. Is there a difference?

[MattKing]

I WANT THIS for my PRINT scans!!!

That too!

 

[MattKing]

FWIW, over the years we have had excellent, very functional service from a lot of IKEA furniture. We have some older models that are still serving us well after several years, and a couple of newer, inexpensive bookshelves that look fine and are functioning and wearing well.
You can pay more, and get worse from others.
Just as you can pay more and get better from others.

 

[warden]

And you did not ...

Of course I did but it was in the 1970s. Wait 1960s. I can’t talk about it either. Shhhhhhh

 

[Pieter12]

I'm sure that upon careful examination, one could tell the difference between these images. One was created with AI *from a generation or so ago) the other was created by freezing one's ass and wondering if there were grizzlies nearby.

 

[DREW WILEY]

We have a big Ikea store in nearby Emeryville - a massive big box and office hub surrounded by the Bay one one side, and a real bad neighborhood on the other. Tellingly, Ikea is the only big store the looters don't even bother with. Doubt they could get anything out intact. I sold cabinet shops and furniture plants assembly hardware and fasteners for four decades, and can't even figure out where Ikea gets theirs. I've seen some substandard things once Chinese zinc products started arriving, but I think Ikea must use recycled chewing gum wrappers for their equivalents.

But it does amaze me how they can do things in volume. Friends of ours went and bought big six foot wide mass-produced inkjet pictures for their walls with a cleanable laminate over it, and basic metal edge framing - the whole thing for less than I could even frame one myself. And Ikea did Tennessee a big favor when a lot of manufacturing plants were shut down, and entire counties were going over to pot and meth production. But Ikea went in an revitalized an entire key community. They're almost entirely automated, so don't employ a lot of people in the factory pre se; but add on warehousing positions, truck drivers and so forth, and there was quite a positive impact. And they obviously employ incredible engineers, behind all that sophisticated machinery; but no serious cabinet maker would be caught dead working for them.

 

[BMbikerider]

You must have had a traumatic experience as a child at IKEA.

I almost did. I got lost in one of their stores which was a maze of gigantic proportions with no obvious quick way to the exit. How I managed to go past the glassware section 4 times and the cafe twice without escaping I don't know.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I am guessing you are not IKEA’s target demographic.

What was your first clue?

 

[Sirius Glass]

FWIW, over the years we have had excellent, very functional service from a lot of IKEA furniture. We have some older models that are still serving us well after several years, and a couple of newer, inexpensive bookshelves that look fine and are functioning and wearing well.
You can pay more, and get worse from others.
Just as you can pay more and get better from others.

We do that latter and also buy from Costco.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Of course I did but it was in the 1970s. Wait 1960s. I can’t talk about it either. Shhhhhhh

1980s through 2015.

 

[warden]

FWIW, over the years we have had excellent, very functional service from a lot of IKEA furniture. We have some older models that are still serving us well after several years, and a couple of newer, inexpensive bookshelves that look fine and are functioning and wearing well.
You can pay more, and get worse from others.
Just as you can pay more and get better from others.

You do have to be careful buying from them, but I agree they do make some good quality products. I have a couple of chairs from them on my front porch that are made of solid eucalyptus and are holding up quite well. Not fancy, but comfortable and hard to beat for the price.

 

[faberryman]

What was your first clue?

My first clue was that you are ga-ga over Hasselblads. But then both Hasselblad and IKEA are Swedish, so that didn't make sense. And you have said before on several occasions that you got your Hasselblads cheap, and IKEA furniture is cheap, so that couldn't be it. So I may retract my earlier statement and say you are in IKEA's target demographic because you like cheap stuff from Sweden.

 

[Sirius Glass]

My first clue was that you are ga-ga over Hasselblads. But then both Hasselblad and IKEA are Swedish, so that didn't make sense. And you have said before on several occasions that you got your Hasselblads cheap, and IKEA furniture is cheap, so that couldn't be it. So I may retract my earlier statement and say you are in IKEA's target demographic because you like cheap stuff from Sweden.

Whatever

 

[VinceInMT]

My first clue was that you are ga-ga over Hasselblads…..

Do you know how to tell if a photo was shot with a Hasselblad? Don’t worry, the photographer will tell you.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Do you know how to tell if a photo was shot with a Hasselblad? Don’t worry, the photographer will tell you.

One cannot by looking at a print.

 

[Pieter12]

One cannot by looking at a print.

One can if it includes the rebate.

 

[DREW WILEY]

No way I'd spend money on a Hassie print unless it did come with a rebate.

 

[faberryman]

Why would you ask what camera a print was made from?

 

[Sirius Glass]

No way I'd spend money on a Hassie print unless it did come with a rebate.

Blowing gas again? Would that include Ansel Adams' "Moon over Half Dome"?

 

[koraks]

Alright, we've all had our swing at Hasselblad and its users. Now please proceed with the ontopic discussion.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I asked Bing AI search this question and got this answer. How smart is it?


Which film should I use for landscape photography?


Answer:
There are many different types of film that you can use for landscape photography, depending on your personal preference and the lighting conditions. Some of the most popular color film types for landscape photographers are:

• Kodak Portra 4001: This film is known for its fine grain and high quality. It has low contrast and high color saturation, which can create a unique look for your landscapes. It can also be pushed or pulled by one stop if needed.
• Kodak Ektar 1002: This film is ideal for capturing vibrant colors and fine details in your landscapes. It has very fine grain and high sharpness, making it suitable for large prints. It also has a warm tone that can enhance the mood of your images.
• Fujifilm Velvia 502 : This film is famous for its vivid colors and high contrast, which can make your landscapes pop. It has a cool tone that can accentuate blues and greens, and a very fine grain that preserves details. It is best used in bright light or with a tripod.
• Kodak Ektachrome E1002 : This film is a slide film that produces positive images instead of negatives. It has a neutral tone and a balanced color rendition, which can give your landscapes a realistic and natural look. It also has fine grain and high sharpness, and can handle a wide range of exposures.

Of course, these are not the only options available, and you may want to experiment with different films to find your favorite one. You can also try black and white films, such as Ilford Delta 1003 or Kodak Tri-X 4002, which can create dramatic and timeless landscapes.

I hope this helps you choose the best film for your landscape photography. Happy shooting!

It also provided two links for more information probably where it got some of the information:

1.

6 Brilliant Color Film Types for Landscape Photographers to Try

Berty and Emily Mandagie give insight into their favorite films for landscape photography.

www.bhphotovideo.com

2.

Best 35mm film, roll film, and sheet film: these are our picks of the best films you can still buy, whatever for your camera

Want to know what the best film you can buy in 35mm, medium format, and large format is? Read on!

www.digitalcameraworld.com

 

[koraks]

I asked Bing AI search this question

GIGO.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I asked the same question in regular Google search and got this link response. The first link in their list was item 1 in the Bing AI search but there are a lot more to choose from

Which film should I use for landscape photography? - Google Search

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Comparing the two I find regular Google search provides better and more expansive choices and info than Bing AI which gives a quick and limited response, good for people who don't want to do much analysis and follow-up.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Comparing the two I find regular Google search provides better and more expansive choices and info than Bing AI which gives a quick and limited response, good for people who don't want to do much analysis and follow-up.

FireFox and DuckDuckGo are better since you are not tracked and do not start getting ads on what you searched. Even better use FireFox and DuckDuckGo starting with '!g ' and then you are searching Google without tracking.

 

[CMoore]

You think Instagram is currently all that different? Or the neatly framed prints you buy at Ikea et al.?

Of course AI is not going to ever be a threat to photography as such, even though it will replace some of it.

There will be AI-imagery for the masses, replacing the muzak-equivalent of 'art' that adorns low-grade hotel rooms. There will be AI that is used by artists as just another tool to express themselves. And there's going to be photography, painting, sculpting, drawing and all those other ways of expression existing right next to it, and sometimes synergistically so.

I don't get the angst. There's no need for it.

I do not, quite, get the angst either.
There might be many reasons for many different people.?

I do not think there will be a significant number of people who pass themselves off as "painters" or photographers" just because of "AI Art".
There is no stopping the march of technology.

There are WAY more nefarious things being done with tech and computers than is being discussed in this thread.