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dwainthomas

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where can I get this film developed? Took it to a Lab and they say they can't process it. Apparently it takes some different type of chemical other than E-6 and they can't cross process it either.
 

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Rocky Mountain Labs (US)
Film Rescue International (Canada)

Those are the only two I know of.
 
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Is this an AP-41 process film, like Agfa CT18? If so, http://www.processc22.co.uk/ in the UK can also process it.

If you go with Rocky Mountain, call them first and ask when they last ran a batch of this process, and when they expect to run one again. You might have to wait years.
 

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I'm sure it's the same process as CT-18, well before Agfa converted to E6 equivalent, and as such totally incompatable with present chemicals.

I believe it was discontinued around the early 80's(?), so you're probably dealing with 25-30 year-old film. I'd perhaps just keep it as a collector's item, unless you have some valuable pics on it which could justify the effort and cost of the special processing?
 
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Hmm, I'm not 100% sure if it's AP-41. I don't have the roll with me right now, so I couldn't say exactly. I can describe the canister :smile: The lip where the film comes out has a groove near the end and on the top and bottom
 
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I'm sure it's the same process as CT-18, well before Agfa converted to E6 equivalent, and as such totally incompatable with present chemicals.

I believe it was discontinued around the early 80's(?), so you're probably dealing with 25-30 year-old film. I'd perhaps just keep it as a collector's item, unless you have some valuable pics on it which could justify the effort and cost of the special processing?

I wish i knew it was this special to develop...lol.
 

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Maybe in Europe in some places, when I used it was somewhere in the 80s and than it was not a common film, beautifull and rare.

And please state at least your location.
 

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I wish i knew it was this special to develop...lol.

Don't be surprised if places like Film Rescue or Rocky Mountain don't tell you that they process this film as B&W negatives. If it's really that old the colour casts may be way off anyway.
 
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Maybe in Europe in some places, when I used it was somewhere in the 80s and than it was not a common film, beautifull and rare.

And please state at least your location.

It did mention that it was made in Germany but all the writing was in english if that helps
 
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here are some images of the roll.

IMG_0094.jpg


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The photo's don't have any information about processing unfortunately.
I would ship them to the UK as been mentioned before.
They are your best bet to get a "good" result.

Peter
 
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I didn't have the whole box, just the flap that had the same info as the lable on the canister. :sad: I'll find out how much it will cost to ship.
 

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Has anyone thought about contacting Agfa/Geavart in Belgium? Since they were the parent arm of Agfa/Germany I'm sure they could tell you what process the film was designed for. Yes, they are still in business making film products, just not consumer film.

You can get contact information from their web site: http://www.agfa.com/en/sp/index.jsp
 
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Has anyone thought about contacting Agfa/Geavart in Belgium? Since they were the parent arm of Agfa/Germany I'm sure they could tell you what process the film was designed for. Yes, they are still in business making film products, just not consumer film.

You can get contact information from their web site: http://www.agfa.com/en/sp/index.jsp

man, I would make a comment but I wouldn't want it to be taken out of context, (all in fun), but honestly i didn't even think to think of that :D I'll give them a call.
 

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I didn't have the whole box, just the flap that had the same info as the lable on the canister. :sad: I'll find out how much it will cost to ship.

I have 4 rolls of this in still shrink wrapped boxes, plus a dozen or so rolls in the metal canisters, without the boxes.

The boxes say "process before 2/78" and "Emulsion number 6587" and "Price includes processing and mounting by: Agfa Processing Service"

They also say the same thing in French (this is film manufactured in W. Germany, but sold in Canada).

There is nothing else anywhere about which process is used.

This all came from the freezer of someone who used to be an avid photographer, but passed away last year.

Matt
 

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Matt: typical for that era...... processing and mounting was included in the price, so they did not have to say anything about it.
31 year old film.... I wonder what will come out of it.....

Peter
 

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You could probably scratch mix chemistry. Anyone know where to find CD-1?
 

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Matt: typical for that era...... processing and mounting was included in the price, so they did not have to say anything about it.
31 year old film.... I wonder what will come out of it.....

Peter

Actually Peter, processing and mounted included was normal for the Canadian market until very recently.

I don't think it is practically possible to have anything come out of the film that I have - I don't think the processing is available.

I kept it because of memories, and because I like the canisters :smile:.

If someone wants it, contact me.

Matt
 
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Just got some info from C 22:

"The film is developed using a process known as Agfachrome 41, we call it AP-41. It is a very different system to Kodachrome and Ektachrome, and was discontinued around 1990. At that time it was still used for Agfa 8mm movie films".

This helps a lot :smile: Those are some cool people.

Thanks for all of your help here.
 

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As I have read a comparison test of several E-6 and pre-E-6 slide films in a German photo magazine around 1981/1982, the processing of West German Agfachrome and East German Orwochrom films was so similar (as the technology), that the Orwo film came out well with Agfa's AP-41 processing. Why not try Agfachrome with the Orwo 9165 process:

http://www.grosskabinett.de/photo/Labor/Rezepte/11.php (in German)

Orwo T22 = CD1 color developer

AP-41: 12 - 14 min first dev. at 24 °C
Orwo 9165: 10 - 12 min at 25 °C

AP-41: 10 - 11 min color dev. at 24 °C
Orwo 9165: 10 - 12 min at 25 °C

Especially the frozen film stock could be helpful - one could cut one exposed film into several pieces to optimize the time.
 
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